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WC-Men's Qualifying Round

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:32 am
by PVPhD
GROUP A

1 994 Nick HYSONG USA 71 10 5.60 Q
2 820 Igor PAVLOV RUS 79 4 5.60 Q
3 31 Dmitri MARKOV AUS 75 2 5.60 Q
3 885 Patrik KRISTIANSSON SWE 77 13 5.60 Q
3 398 Tim LOBINGER GER 72 7 5.60 Q
6 542 Daichi SAWANO JPN 80 1 5.45 q
6 62 Kevin RANS BEL 82 9 5.45 q
8 325 Jean GALFIONE FRA 71 8 5.45
9 197 Piotr BUCIARSKI DEN 75 3 5.30
147 Feiliang LIU CHN 85 6 NM
1048 Leonid ANDREEV UZB 83 11 NM
1031 Toby STEVENSON USA 76 5 NM
945 Vladyslav REVENKO UKR 84 12 NM

GROUP B
1 808 Pavel GERASIMOV RUS 79 7 5.60 Q
2 1044 Brad WALKER USA 81 4 5.45 q
2 376 Danny ECKER GER 77 2 5.45 q
2 469 Giuseppe GIBILISCO ITA 79 1 5.45 q
2 665 Rens BLOM NED 77 5 5.45 q
6 313 Damiel DOSSÉVI FRA 83 8 5.45
6 412 Konstadínos FILIPPÃÂ

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:12 am
by mowad1
The wind was terrible today. Much stronger than for the women. Then the standards for group B broke. It took about an hour to fix. Group A was getting done with 5.60 when the break happend. Bubka was on the track making the decision to lower the auto qualifying height to 5.60. Toby was not in yet from group A so he was moved to pit B. It was evident that he was not going to jump because he only to one warm up.
After the delay 5.60 in the final group proved difficult for most so 5.45 with no misses was in. That saved some disappointed guys for another day. An enclosed stadium on a windy day is murder for pole vaulters.

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:50 pm
by Scott Go Pre
That sucks, Toby got shafted.

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:22 pm
by Skyin' Brian
Scott Go Pre wrote:That sucks, Toby got shafted.


doesnt sound like it mattered too much since he wasnt healthy enough to jump

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:39 pm
by ashcraftpv
i'm watching the video archive from the morning session when the qualifying took place. So far I've seen the Chinese guy get rejected on his first attempt and the Finn bail on a jump in the first 90 min of the coverage. lots of shots of nothing and people standing around when they could be showing vaults! I hope the coverage of the finals is better then this....

good thing i'm only out $5 if it sucks......

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:33 pm
by mowad1
it looks like a lot of nothing because for at least 1 hour there was a stall on the action on pit b. there was a shot of the vaulters just lounging on the pit as Bubka is going nuts to get the standard fixed.

I'm sure he was thinking that this never happend when he was jumping. Darn technology. Who is to say that the standards even to the correct height. Sometimes when the crossbar is being raised they go uneven causing the bar to fall off. It looks like a whole lot of nothing to me. Yeah, the way the break happened was due to a vaulter coming down on the bar. The entire housing just busted right off. In the end it only took a screw or two to fix.

Live Results?

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:32 pm
by IBPVC
Does anyone know the website for live results....like a play by play for the pole vault finals?

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:54 pm
by ashcraftpv
eurosport usually has live coverage

I've finally finsihed watching the coverage of the session during the men's qualifying and it was crap. almost 4 hours of track and all they showed were:

1) some shots of the vaulters standing around during warmups
2) the guy from china getting rejected
3) Mononen bailing out
4) Toby standing around with the commentators wondering why he hadn't jumped yet
5) Mononen missing and breaking the standards
6) Bubka arguing with some guy about getting som eother standards for a couple minutes
7) Mononen getting stood up on a 3rd attempt
8) Gerasimov's 3rd attempt make at 5.60m

that's it. one friggin' make. I don't fault the commentators. They tried to talk about what was going on over at the vault as much as they could squeeze in. At one point, they even commented how there were lots of shots of the crowd while there were other events going on that they could be showing instead. Finals coverage had better improve over what they did today.....

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:34 am
by rainbowgirl28
I heard the video coverage of the women's prelims showed almost all the vaults, you should check the archive for that one.

I'm on the road and haven't had a chance to watch yet :(

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:23 am
by Stensol
Anybody know why the officials allowed Mononen to take an extra jump after his third miss at 5.45? On his third attempt, he plants, takes off, bails early, landing on the front of the pit. Then he looks at the clock, sees that there are about 20 seconds left, runs over and grabs a heavier pole, and makes another attempt! Huh? He bails on the fourth attempt, too.

Anyone have any insight on this?

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:59 am
by achtungpv
Stensol wrote:Anybody know why the officials allowed Mononen to take an extra jump after his third miss at 5.45? On his third attempt, he plants, takes off, bails early, landing on the front of the pit. Then he looks at the clock, sees that there are about 20 seconds left, runs over and grabs a heavier pole, and makes another attempt! Huh? He bails on the fourth attempt, too.

Anyone have any insight on this?


For IAAF & USATF you can leave the ground and as long as you don't break the plain it is not a jump. Dragila set a WR because of this rule once. Only in HS is it a rule if you leave the ground it's a jump.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:07 pm
by ECVaulter
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005/08 ... 8_9_05.txt

Pole vault qualifying a comedy of errors

By: BOB BAUM - Associated Press

HELSINKI, Finland ---- Olympic silver medalist Toby Stevenson withdrew from the world championship pole vault qualifying Tuesday because of a hamstring injury, a competition that was disrupted when a Finnish vaulter's crash damaged the measuring equipment.

When the event restarted, using a second pit where the equipment was intact, gusty winds hampered the vaulter's efforts, with half the 12 qualifiers only clearing 17 feet, 10 3/4 inches. The other six cleared 18-4 1/2.

"The conditions all day were pretty rough," said American Brad Walker, one of those who barely made it through. "Basically a lot of us had that first attempt clearance at 5.45 meters (17-10 3/4). Then we had that standard kind of break apart. After that about an hour delay or however long it was, the wind seemed to pick up a little bit and it was very tough conditions to jump in."


Stevenson took a pair of warm-up runs, then decided not to risk worsening the injury, which occurred during training with the Swedish team a week ago.

"It's my takeoff leg, and I wasn't going to get a chance to compete at 100 percent," Stevenson said, "and that's all I do. I go all out every time."

Stevenson said the injury was mild and that in four or five days he would be back at full strength.

"I was testing it about half of what I would have jumped on it, and I was feeling it, so I know I would have gone out and maybe exploded it, I don't know," he said. "Right now it's super small and I'll be ready for them all. I've got a lot of meets lined up, and I'll be ready for them all. But it's a hard pill to swallow that I had to sacrifice this one."

The delay came after Matti Mononen of Finland, easily spotted with a strip of blue hair, came crashing down on the bar so hard that it knocked down the measuring equipment. During the delay, pole vaulting great Sergei Bubka ---- an IAAF Council member ---- came out to talk to meet officials as they tried to figure out what to do.

"I was just trying to help out," Bubka said. "It was unexpected and a decision had to be made quickly."

Eventually, it was decided to lower the automatic qualifying standard from 18-10 1/2 to 18-4 1/2 a height five vaulters already had cleared.

"The decision was made in the best interest of the athletes," Bubka said, "but the wind was a disaster."

Only one more made it over the bar at that height when the vaulting resumed.

"This is the first time I've seen somebody break the entire standard," Stevenson said. "That was unfortunate because it postponed the meet about an hour, and the wind just kicked up. It would have been a different meet if that hadn't happened."

Mononen, who failed to qualify for the finals, pulled a hood over his head and walked past reporters without talking.

American Nick Hysong, the 2000 Olympic gold medalist, led the qualifiers as the only one to clear 18-4 1/2 on his first try.

Bubka knows well the foibles of the pole vault in Helsinki. In the first world championships, held in the capital in 1983, the pole vault finals lasted more than seven hours after heavy rain and strong wind forced cancellation of the qualifying round. It took 5 1/2 hours for the bar to be raised to a 18-4 1/2, with eight still in the competition. Bubka cleared 18-8 1/2 to win the first of his six world championships.