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How do you jump over your handgrip?
Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 9:10 pm
by mcminkz05
ok, i need to be jumping AT LEAST 9" over my handgrip. how might i go about this?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 4:54 pm
by Barto
For starters you must grip high enough to make a 9" pushoff realistic - between 12'10" and 13'6" depending on your height would be the minimum grip to enable a 9" pushoff.
Secondly, it is just a matter of efficient technique. Takeoff high, keep the hands away, and swing like hell. 9" pushoff is not particularly difficult if you are generating enough force in the first place.
Barto.
Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 5:07 pm
by zack
There is no minimum grip height needed to get at least a 9" push-off. Just one that is high enough so that you are not overrotating the pole. Other than that its just a matter of working on the swing and turn.
Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 12:29 pm
by Barto
Basic pole vault physics lesson:
If you are fast enough to generate enough force to push off in the first place (and you are over 5"2"), you will need at least a 12'10" to keep from over rotating the pole.
Show me a vaulter over 5"2" pushing 9" with a lower grip, and I will show you vaulter with poor technique.
Barto.
Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 1:56 pm
by lonestar
I can jump 10'0 holding 9'10" from 2 steps (10" pushoff if my math is right).
Is my technique poor? Must be since I only jumped 15'9 holding 14'.
Oh by the way, I'm 5'10.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 9:12 am
by indestructo
I agree.... I can do the same and I'm 6'3"..... a 10ft jump holding 9'9"...
But I can only jump 15'6" holding at 14'1"......
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 2:31 pm
by Barto
Guys-
Video yourselves jumping 10' gripping 10' and tell me what you look like.
Not the same as whey you jump 15'6 grippin 14'!
You are experienced vaulters and you know a little trick called pulling your arm out of the pole. That is not good technique!
Use the same technique as when you are jumping for real and you will have a very difficult time jumping over your top hand gripping under 12'6
Barto.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2003 1:03 am
by das_1971
I jumped eight from one step, not one left, one step, to prove to my HS guys it could be done. I was holding mabye 7 feet. Took a lot of form since I'm so out of shape, but it was done
If you just hang on the pole and get flung, you technique is not efficient, not bad, but not efficient. that would make it very hard to go high with a low handgrip unless your very very strong and or very very fast EX. 100 lbs on a 10'8 200. if you make the pit and get decent energy into and return from the pole, you will go high for that hand grip.
If your form is efficient, and you use explosive strenght in you top end, you can easily get around 10-18" no matter where you hold. 10-18" is hip room with bottom arm straight and on the pole(10) and top arm straight still on the pole(18). well close to straight anyway. Anyway, how do you think steel polers ever got over their hand hold. you can't just hang on a rigid pole and expect it to throw you.
By the way what does pulling you arm out of the pole mean. sounds painful