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video review
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:53 pm
by Dblocks Pv
im a junior in ct im about 5' 10'' 153lbs the pole is a 14 6 pacer fx 165 my pr is 13'10'' the bungee is at 14' can someone help me and let me know wut i can do to improve please
http://www.treemo.com/users/dblockspv/c ... tem/92329/
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 11:17 pm
by vaulter870
i will tell you that you really arent supposed to leanback while you are planting it seams like you are almost stopping when you do it
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 11:43 pm
by DanielS
Also, you need to keep your trail leg straighter for a longer period of time. Though I have no idea what I'm talking about so don't listen to that unless someone else confirms it.
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:18 am
by AvariceDemons
You definitely need to keep a longer trail leg at least through the beginning half of the jump. You break you leg right away, if you keep it straight you can load so much more energy into the pole and probably move up poles easier.
Also, try to not block with your bottom arm. As you invert, you should break your bottom arm and stay along your pole. If you watch your jump you dont completely break it in and you push yourself away form the pole and fall horizontal, rather than staying vertical a little longer. Breaking your arm more and staying along the pole will get you more height
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:13 am
by Glory
you also need to start your turn earlier...what helps me is right when i see my feet cross the bar/bungee i start my turn and fly away...do that and you'll get more "pop" to your pole
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:30 am
by Dblocks Pv
AvariceDemons wrote:You definitely need to keep a longer trail leg at least through the beginning half of the jump. You break you leg right away, if you keep it straight you can load so much more energy into the pole and probably move up poles easier.
Also, try to not block with your bottom arm. As you invert, you should break your bottom arm and stay along your pole. If you watch your jump you dont completely break it in and you push yourself away form the pole and fall horizontal, rather than staying vertical a little longer. Breaking your arm more and staying along the pole will get you more height
how would u recomend learning this?
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:12 pm
by sooch90
Hmm, it appears you're putting a lot of pressure with the bottom arm, but it doesn't seem you exactly block out.
Was this a video of your best jump? or a typical jump? Do you usually get your hips above your head like you do in that video?
I think because you are putting so much pressure with the bottom arm, it looks like your swing is almost put to a halt, thus forcing you to curl up.
I dunno, that's my 2 cents
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:04 pm
by Dblocks Pv
sooch90 wrote:Hmm, it appears you're putting a lot of pressure with the bottom arm, but it doesn't seem you exactly block out.
Was this a video of your best jump? or a typical jump? Do you usually get your hips above your head like you do in that video?
I think because you are putting so much pressure with the bottom arm, it looks like your swing is almost put to a halt, thus forcing you to curl up.
I dunno, that's my 2 cents
yeah thats my typical jump i used to have a long trail swing but i pulled my hip flexor in indoor so naturally i have curled up my leg and i havent been able to get my swing back but even then i still blocked myself and my hips dropped so im not sure how to fix that
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:33 pm
by vaulter870
i have something to put out there i think that in general people like to give adviece about what someone should do like keep a straighter trail leg without anymore inf then that. but the bigger poblem still lies in the plant. the fact is that without a proper set up and plant doing anything that is after that is irrelevent. the most important thing that you can do is work on getting a better takeoff by working on short 2 and 3 left drills. you need to focus on hitting the right possitions for the plant and getting them eairly. also work on getting your feet underneeth you at the plant and in the run in general this should help you to not stride at takeoff. these are my 2 cents i am not by anymeans a coach but i have learned alot about the fundementals and the vault being a continuous chain and if you cant get the first section of it right then you wont get the rest of it.
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:15 pm
by AVC Coach
It looks like your take off is a little under which will cause you to lose energy immediately. Your trail leg is bent right after take-off which won't allow you to add energy. You row your hands forward as you swing and that crushes any energy you had left and then you appear to be waiting on the pole to recoil and do the job for you.
You can't fix everything at one time, so focus on your take-off and clean it up a bit. Then the trail leg (keep it straight until parallel with the runway). Next, keep your hands above your head as you swing (you can't swing to the top efficiently if your hands are in the way). No pauses. No waiting. It will come together if you're willing to break it down and put in the time.
Good luck.
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:20 pm
by Dblocks Pv
vaulter870 wrote:i have something to put out there i think that in general people like to give adviece about what someone should do like keep a straighter trail leg without anymore inf then that. but the bigger poblem still lies in the plant. the fact is that without a proper set up and plant doing anything that is after that is irrelevent. the most important thing that you can do is work on getting a better takeoff by working on short 2 and 3 left drills. you need to focus on hitting the right possitions for the plant and getting them eairly. also work on getting your feet underneeth you at the plant and in the run in general this should help you to not stride at takeoff. these are my 2 cents i am not by anymeans a coach but i have learned alot about the fundementals and the vault being a continuous chain and if you cant get the first section of it right then you wont get the rest of it.
yeah that sounds right i agree thanks