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This might be a little off topic but when I read the posts about the Nordic Graphites it got me interrested. So I went to the Nordic website to try and research these poles, but as soon as the site pooped up I saw that they hade came out with a new design of pole called the Nordic Evolution. It says it is made from a different materal then any other poles on the market.

Here is the quote from the website

Nordic Sport has developed a new pole, which is manufactured of a unique and secret mixture of material. The mixture is completely different from all other poles on the market.

Here is the sites link if you would like to check it out:
http://sv.nordicsport.com/files/md/32/0 ... vo_eng.pdf


I might be a little late on this and people have already posted about it, but if not, any ideas on what that material is???

KJax2010 wrote:I might be a little late on this and people have already posted about it, but if not, any ideas on what that material is???

Actually no, this has never come up on the board as far as I know. I split it into its own thread.

It looks like it is some kind of carbon pole

Nordic Sport have developed a completely NEW pole, manufactured of a completely unique mixture of material which is totally different from any other pole on the market. Tests made has shown that this pole has following advantages:
• Lighter than a fiberglass pole
• Slightly smaller diameter than a fiberglass pole
• Bends easier in the beginning phase of the vault
• Gives a very powerful return kick-back
• As far as we can see, this pole does not break as easy as a regular carbon pole. In fact, we had no breakages at all during all the tests that has been made with a lot of different vaulters around the world.

Maybe it's kevlar like the Laerton poles of legend.

That sounds pretty exciting!! So, are they saying that these poles have the ability to hold the same amount of energy as normal poles, but with less leaking? Is that how people are supposidly jumping higher on them? I would just like to hear a quick physics lesson on how graphite mixture in the pole, or in the last 3 feet of the pole, is an advantage? As far as i can see, you can only give the same amount of energy into one pole as another, so these poles must somehow leak less energy than others?

vault3rb0y wrote:That sounds pretty exciting!! So, are they saying that these poles have the ability to hold the same amount of energy as normal poles, but with less leaking? Is that how people are supposidly jumping higher on them? I would just like to hear a quick physics lesson on how graphite mixture in the pole, or in the last 3 feet of the pole, is an advantage? As far as i can see, you can only give the same amount of energy into one pole as another, so these poles must somehow leak less energy than others?

These are not the same as the graphite poles in the other thread. I do not know that there is any graphite in these at all.

When I was in Europe I saw plenty of guys in Nordic poles, but no one on Nordic Carbons.

Perhaps we can get vaultwest to comment on these poles. I'm pretty sure he has had the opportunity to "test drive" one.

- master

I have been away for awhile so I have just now seen master's promt about these poles.

I do not have any concrete knowledge about Nordic's claims on these poles but if I were pressed I would say that what we are dealing with here is some Marketing Spin. I talked to the engineer for Nordic and from our limited conversation ( he spoke some english and I speak no swedish) all I can say is that the percentages of carbon to fiberglass may be what is unique to their pole. They are getting pre preg carbon cloth and using fibergalss cloth from different sources than the US manufacturers use so there is some difference there but I am sure there are no new exotic materials in these poles. I think they are just pushing the envelop on spin by saying they are totally unique. In a certain sense at a specific or exact level every single pole is unique, with its own unique combination of cloth and resin etc. that no other pole has exactly. So a marketing guy could make the claim that these poles are unique in the carbon pole world, I am not sure I would agree.

As far as the pole goes, after jumping on it, I would say that it is a little lighter than a regular glass pole but not quite as light as a pacer carbon and certainly not as light as Pacer's new weave poles. It also had been made on a mandrel (or its handle size) was about the same as a glass pole and thus larger than a Pacer carbon. I liked the feel of the pole it seemed smooth off the ground and had nearly the same return of energy as my pacer carbons. So I would say it is a good pole but for the price if I was going to jump on a carbon pole I would stay with Pacer carbons.

I kind of went on and on but I hope that helps.
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