Chase Shealy is suspended for two Years!!!!

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Unread postby Erica » Wed Dec 10, 2003 9:34 pm

NO, only if you are in an international competition will it matter. However, to be on the safe side I recommend you watch what you take until then. And always, make sure you know what you are putting in you body and use the USADA website to confirm everything is legal. http://www.usantidoping.org/

Caffeine and Pseudoephedrine will both be monitored to study increased use after they are legal. I believe nicotine is the other substance that they are unbanning.

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Negative press.

Unread postby Carolina Extreme » Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:52 am

If you type Chase's name in a Yahoo search it is unreal how fast the press worldwide is eager to jump on things. Here is a link to one that had the courtesy to contact us and ask about it.

http://www.milesplit.com/article/1592 :yes: Finally decent press, well... under the circumstances about as decent as you could expect.

I am still amazed, as I was in July when this was first announced, that Chase's name is popping up on websites around the world, and other media, in languages we can't even begin to read.
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Re: Negative press.

Unread postby Bruce Caldwell » Thu Dec 11, 2003 11:58 am

Carolina Extreme wrote:If you type Chase's name in a Yahoo search it is unreal how fast the press worldwide is eager to jump on things. Here is a link to one that had the courtesy to contact us and ask about it.

http://www.milesplit.com/article/1592 :yes: Finally decent press, well... under the circumstances about as decent as you could expect.

I am still amazed, as I was in July when this was first announced, that Chase's name is popping up on websites around the world, and other media, in languages we can't even begin to read.


I agree why don't they publish personal records or positive info. How about just the results of the meet. Or a meet info page before a meet.

That is not news to them. Our society today is warped they only look at the runner who fell and forget about the winner of the race, the vaulter who broke a pole and not the winner who set their personal accomplishments


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Unread postby russvault » Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:33 pm

If they took these substances off of the banned lists, will they still be suspended for them, since they were caught before?
This is so confusing!

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Unread postby Carolina Extreme » Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:52 pm

russvault wrote:If they took these substances off of the banned lists, will they still be suspended for them, since they were caught before?
This is so confusing!
The athletes suspended for them should apply for reinstatement ASAP if they are smart. You would think it would breeze through reinstatement, but who knows. I have grown to expect the unexpected. Trying to anticipate it is the tough part.
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Unread postby Erica » Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:14 am

I think we need to find a positive in this and try to twist it into an advantage.
Any suggestions out there????


When the USATF Athlete Advisory Committee and others at the annual meeting voted on stricter penalties than the IAAF requires, I think this was partially to show the press that we are being proactive against drugs. We talked about other things that could be done to improve the image of track and field, but most of this is out of our hands. The media tends to write about whatever seems like the most 'newsworthy' thing.

They are going to start publishing the negetive drug test results, but who is going to want to look through hundreds of names and applaude them all for not testing positive. Isn't that what is expected? :dazed:

Russ, as far as the USADA is concerned, yes, you will still be suspended because it was an illegal substance when you tested positive for it. I dont know the IAAF standpoint on this.

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Unread postby Carolina Extreme » Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:04 pm

Erica wrote:Russ, as far as the USADA is concerned, yes, you will still be suspended because it was an illegal substance when you tested positive for it. I dont know the IAAF standpoint on this.

I don't think the problem lies with USADA though. USADA has a job to do which is to do the tests, and they are doing a good job. If the test come back positive you are suspended automatically for two years, no excuses accepted. USADA's hands are tied and two years is where it is tied to. After that you have to go up the ladder through USATF to IAAF to request early reinstatement, but that is not a sure thing. So, unless I am mistaken it is up to USATF and IAAF, and not USADA to make that determination if you are still suspended.
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Chase Shealy's reinstatement to be heard by IAAF.

Unread postby Carolina Extreme » Sun Mar 28, 2004 12:21 pm

Well after 9 months of the 2yr suspension, I just wanted to let you know that Chase's case for reinstatement is on the agenda for IAAF sometime soon. Not without a last minute hitch though. If I understand it correctly IAAF contacted our attorney to let him know that they received the request that USADA had written requesting Chase be reinstated by June 1st. They said they were missing a letter from USATF saying that they were in agreement and did not object to his reinstatement. When our attorney contacted USATF attorney Jill Pilgrim she said she didn't have time to write the letter she had more important things to do. Our attorney did good by insisting that this case was very important for the athlete and reinstatement is the right thing to do. She still would not do it so he went over her head to USOC who got involved and demanded that it be done. So we got that taken care of. I think there is still no guarantee that IAAF will get to it or make a decision. All we can do is pray and wait and hope that all of the problems with USATF, THG, Jerome Young and such do not cause the IAAF to polarize against anything American. I guess we will find out soon enough.

Chase is trying not to get his hopes up, as much as he wants to compete in this years USA Juniors for a shot at the World Junior Championships team.

I am still very concerned though, and we all should be, about this years USA Junior meet. There is bound to be the same problem again this year with other Junior athletes who take A.D.D. meds. Our attorney is working hard to come up with a workable solution. I wish USATF were working on it as hard.
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Unread postby belmore » Sun Mar 28, 2004 11:43 pm

For those of you haven't met Chase and his dad, these are two class act people. This is not a case of someone trying to slide one by the rules. Rusty, I commend your restraint and patience on this. Chase, you're one heckuva vaulter, anybody that has been lucky enough to see you jump knows that. You Shealys are allright, I expect things to turn out for the right. I have to say though, I was disappointed Rusty didn't get that NASCAR commercial a few years ago. He caused me to not be able to point at the tv and go, "shoot, I know him, we go way back.."
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Unread postby jmayesvaultmom » Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:03 am

Rusty...they still need to clarify the "long" term and "short" term testing. How far away before the meet could kids who need these meds still take the prescription? If they can take it until the end of school, then Jr. Nationals is about 3 weeks away, depending upon when they finish school for the semester. Have you asked about that? If they clarify it...in other words, if you are taking prescribed ADD meds, stop by this date, it could be put in the information for the meet.
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Re: ADD Meds

Unread postby Carolina Extreme » Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:49 am

jmayesvaultmom wrote:Rusty...they still need to clarify the "long" term and "short" term testing. How far away before the meet could kids who need these meds still take the prescription? If they can take it until the end of school, then Jr. Nationals is about 3 weeks away, depending upon when they finish school for the semester. Have you asked about that? If they clarify it...in other words, if you are taking prescribed ADD meds, stop by this date, it could be put in the information for the meet.

I really have no clue. I think you are on your own to decide when to stop. And from what you posted on this link, or the other link "Things That Cause You To Test Positive", even if one of the junior athletes looks at the pocket card, if they have ever seen one, and see's that let's say Wellbutrin is OK to take during competition, so the athlete takes it. When they are tested, they will test positve and probably be suspended automatically for two years. Even though the pocket card says that it is OK. The reason why is they probably did not fill out the medical form in advance and submit it saying that they were taking it. The fact that they needed to fill out the form in advance for it to be OK is buried in the USADA website. Unfortunately, there is no easy answer. Only shattered dreams for some.
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Re: ADD Meds

Unread postby Carolina Extreme » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:29 am

jmayesvaultmom wrote:Rusty...they still need to clarify the "long" term and "short" term testing.


Long refers to Long Menu test, and Short refers to Short Menu test. Short is out-of-competition testing, and Long is in-competition testing. Long Menu adds things that are tested for like Amphetimines, that are in A.D.D. meds. Long Menu will also detect even very minute traces that athletes might think are long gone from there system.
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