Who will vault 6.40m (21’) men and 5.50m (18’)

[agapit]

Man who clears 21’ will:
1. Have a speed on the last 5m of approach at 10.2 m/s
2. Have a grip at 5.25m (17’3â€Â

[OAKPV2004]

Don't you mean the woman will have to run 10.2 and the man run 8.9?

[CHC04Vault]

Don't you mean the woman will have to run 10.2 and the man run 8.9?

No, that would mean us men would run slower. Also, isn't the percetange differantial between mens and womens 100 times the smallest percentage in all of track and field. Proof. Tim Montogomery ran a 9.78 while FloJo ran a 10.49, thats .93% differential. I think 8.9 is an underestamation of what women can run. True, generally women have (don't shot me) lower strength in the upper torso then men, but that shouldn't make them that much slower. Again, i think that is a gross underestamation to a womans speed.

[ashcraftpv]

I don't want to get flamed or anything here, and I'm not gender biased, but I don't think that women will clear 18' anytime soon unless there is some sort of legal training/performance breakthrough for women. I know that women's vaulting is still relatively new, but some elite women have been vaulting just as long as their male counterparts have. They have access to the same coaching and same equipment, but the difference is that men are faster/stronger than women. I just don't see any woman having the necessary physical ability to jump 18' anytime soon, but that's just me.

[agapit]

Don't you mean the woman will have to run 10.2 and the man run 8.9?

no i mean men will have speed 10.2 meters per second and women 8.9 m/s at the end of approach.

agapit

[agapit]

Don't you mean the woman will have to run 10.2 and the man run 8.9?

No, that would mean us men would run slower. Also, isn't the percetange differantial between mens and womens 100 times the smallest percentage in all of track and field. Proof. Tim Montogomery ran a 9.78 while FloJo ran a 10.49, thats .93% differential. I think 8.9 is an underestamation of what women can run. True, generally women have (don't shot me) lower strength in the upper torso then men, but that shouldn't make them that much slower. Again, i think that is a gross underestamation to a womans speed.

hey i am for women as you can gather from my postings. what i mean is 8.9 m/s at the end of approach is possible if you run around 11.20 sec (auto time) 100m. and for men 10.2 m/s is possible if you run around 10.30 sec (auto time) on 100m.

agapit

[agapit]

I don't want to get flamed or anything here, and I'm not gender biased, but I don't think that women will clear 18' anytime soon unless there is some sort of legal training/performance breakthrough for women. I know that women's vaulting is still relatively new, but some elite women have been vaulting just as long as their male counterparts have. They have access to the same coaching and same equipment, but the difference is that men are faster/stronger than women. I just don't see any woman having the necessary physical ability to jump 18' anytime soon, but that's just me.

with all due respect, women that could long jump 22'6" feet and using modern vault model could vault 18 feet. Some of the men I know vault 18' and cannot long jump 22'6". although, most of 18 footers would long jump 23'.

agapit

[OAKPV2004]

Oh i see now. i forgot that 8.9 was faster, for some reason......

[CHC04Vault]

Honestly, i don't know. All im saying from my last post i think women can run alot faster. No, i think women will get close to 18' or higher but im not sure and im not willing to bet on it. Its like debating the mile time, or anything track and field. Just last year we celebrated Roger Bannister breaking the 4 minute mile in '54, and now that time can be broken by high schoolers. Records are meant to be broken...or shattered.

Also, long jump...honestly means nothing right now. As women vaulting is relativily new, most did other events, hence they have technique which is far better then just winging it. Men on the other hand have been able to pole vault since high school and not really worry about other events, so thats an unfair comparison.

[Vault&Flip]

I'm with ashcraft. I really don't see women vaulting 18' or men vaulting 21' feet any time soon. The 17' barrier is close for women, or rather isinbayeva...which draws comparisons to the number of men who have gotten close to 20' but have never jumped it. It's going to be a while, and if not, more power to them.

[agapit]

I'm with ashcraft. I really don't see women vaulting 18' or men vaulting 21' feet any time soon. The 17' barrier is close for women, or rather isinbayeva...which draws comparisons to the number of men who have gotten close to 20' but have never jumped it. It's going to be a while, and if not, more power to them.

Isn't this(video) 6.30m and I have seen better. Gataulin over 6.70m bungee and I mean 6.70m (touching hard of course) Bubka 6.40m bungee close. I know Lawrence Johnson used 6.55m bungee in training. We had to use reverse extentions to get that high.
http://www.stabhoch.com/movies/19920713_Bubka_611.mov

agapit

[Bonevt]

I think that a 21 for men and 18 women is possible in the next 20 years. One of the main things that is going to determine it is if the athletes are getting pushed, Bubka in his time was so far ahead of anyone else. I think that hindered him. For example look at Yelena isinbayeva and svetlana fepfanova, they are relatively close together. Therefore they are pushing each other to greater heights. Also athletes are competing into their mid 30s, both of the Russian women are 23 and 25. Just think what they can be doing in 10 more years.