Whos better big12 or pac10 and im not talking about football

[KYLE ELLIS]

Big 12- ______ pac10
Ray Scotten/ 18'0.5 ________Adam Zimnisky/ 16'0
Gable Baldwin/ 17'8.5_______Andrew Rademacher/ 16'8
Nic Peterson/ 16'6/75_______Chris Chappell/ 17'10
Danny Tyalka/ 16'4_________Kevin Opalka/ 17'10.5
Bobby Most/ 18'0.5 _________Sam Jacobson/ 16'5
Sage Thames/ 18'0.5 _______Brandon Glenn/ 17'7
Jared Thornhill/ 17'10?_______Hank Rogers/ 16'3
Jeff Wyzinski rs/ 17'6.5______Sean Pierce/ 16'6.75
Seth Hariss/ 16'6.75_________Stephen Dolk/ 16'11.5
Chris Ashcraft/ 16'5_________Andy Young/ 17'1
Scott Martin/ 17'9.5__________David Moore/ 16'9
Austin Landreth/ 17'7________Tommy Skipper/ 18'10
Chip Heauser/ 17'6.5________Graeme Hoste/ 16'5
Ty Barrington/ 17'3__________Donald Appanaitis/ 16'0
Justin Sutton 17'4.5_________Scott Sobieralski/ 16'1
Jarod Mathews 17'0_________David Murphy/ 17'1
Dusty Williams 16'0_________David Shortenhaus/ 17'2
Bullick/ 16'0_______________Dustin DeLeo/ 16'5
Nunley/ 16'0_______________Michael Landers/ 17'1
Kilmartin/ 17'8?_____________Yoo-Suk Kim/ 18'6
Mcfarling/ 17'0_____________Zack Miller/ 16'0
Mahler/ 16'6_______________McKane Lee/ 17'3
Terry/ 16'3________________Seth Perrins/ 16'5
Hardee/ 16'9?______________T. J. Emrich/ 16'0
Bryce Bergman/ 16'6________D. J. Brown/ 16'0
Brandon Goebert/ 16'3______Paul Nicoletti/ 17'5.5
Brad Settles/ 16'3__________Tyson Byers/ 17'7
Patrick Southern (NU)/ 16'0____Sam Roberts /16'6

total 18ftrs=3______________total 18ftrs=2
total 17ftrs=11_____________total 17ftrs=11
total 16ftrs=14_____________total 16ftrs=15

[KYLE ELLIS]

Pretty close but it depends on how you look at it, I think the big 12 is deeper but the pac 10 has 2 high 18footers so....

[rainbowgirl28]

You left out Sam Roberts of UW at 16'6"

[K_Rabbit]

This probably won't make any sense but here is the way i look at it. All that talent in the big12 is spread over 12 schools while in the pac10 there are just as many good vaulters within 10 schools. Therefor the pac10 is better. But don't listen to me, im only making this up because im from the west coast and i am a biased person who favors the pac10.

[vaulter870]

either way they are all sweet

[CHC04Vault]

Does any1 have girls Pac10/Big12 stats, we could prolly decide then seeing its so close.

[KYLE ELLIS]

i could make up another list for the girls.... i will when i have time

[SkyHigh21]

hwen did gabe baldwin jump 17 8?

[OAKPV2004]

he jumped 5.40, i think it was on a 15' foot pole?!

[Azbeachboy1]

it's a tuff one to call....I am bias of course buttttt............ who the heck knows, Iv'e been around the pac 10 the last three years, I dont get a chance to see the big 12 jump much, all I know is that the pac 10 has some technically amazing jumpers when it seems like the big 12 goes of of some amazing speed and power. For the most part that is! Skipper of course is always an exeption!

[lonestar]

it's a tuff one to call....I am bias of course buttttt............ who the heck knows, Iv'e been around the pac 10 the last three years, I dont get a chance to see the big 12 jump much, all I know is that the pac 10 has some technically amazing jumpers when it seems like the big 12 goes of of some amazing speed and power. For the most part that is! Skipper of course is always an exeption!

You may have a point there. A friend of mine who is from Texas, but lived and coached in California for many years used to make a similar observation. He pointed out that the majority of coaches in Texas/Midwest were preaching really old-school technique, all run fast, hold high, get on a huge pole, drive the box hard. Train the hell out of them, get them on the biggest pole possible holding dangerously high and see what happens. By comparison, he noted that California/West Coast coaches were more focused on modern technique, using gradual progressions, promoting safety, and increasing grip efficiency instead of just grip height. Obviously there are exceptions in all cases, but has anyone else noted this trend?

[KYLE ELLIS]

I would agree that there is some athletic freaks who just grip it and rip it in the big12. But there are some good technicians as well. But if some did learn how to pole vault they would go from clearing 5.50 every once in a while to clearing 5.65 consistently.