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Re: USA All-Time Top Ten

Unread postby VaultLove » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:48 pm

Kory jumped even higher, 5.89. What year did he test positive for anabolic steroids? That is the what I last remember about him.

vaultwest wrote:Seems like Kory Tarpening jumped something around 19' 3" or 5.87m sometime in the late 80's or early 90's at the National championships in Indianapolis? And also didn't Billy Payne jump around 19'2" at some point?
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Re: USA All-Time Top Ten

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:00 pm

Here is an old and not-up-to-date website that includes the following marks: http://hem.bredband.net/athletics/atb-m26.htm

Starkey 5.92
Tarpenning 5.89
Bell 5.87
Payne 5.86


As far as I can tell that website is outdoor marks only.

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Re: USA All-Time Top Ten

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:07 pm

VaultLove wrote:Kory jumped even higher, 5.89. What year did he test positive for anabolic steroids? That is the what I last remember about him.



His ban was from July 14 1997 to July 14 1999. He set his PR in 1988.

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Re: USA All-Time Top Ten

Unread postby roger/over » Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:13 pm

I’ve had a chance to check, as best I could, on the individual bests of several vaulters believed to have a place on the men’s all-time top ten. Here’s what I found:

5.96o Joe Dial (1) Norman 18 June 1987
5.91i Joe Dial (1) Columbia, MO 1 February 1986
5.80o Daniel Ryland (2) Linz 23 August 2005
5.85i Daniel Ryland (1) Jonesboro 24 July 2005
5.84o Mike Tully (1) Irvine, CA 1 May 1988
5.70i Mike Tully (2) Toronto 29 January 1988
5.87o? Earl Bell (1) Jonesboro 14 May 1988
5.86i Earl Bell (1) Portland 24 January 1987
5.89o Kory Tarpenning (1) Indianapolis 21 July 1988
5.80i Kory Tarpenning (3) Birmingham 23 February 1992
5.86o Bill Payne (1) Houston 19 May 1991
5.80i Bill Payne (2) Los Angeles 15 February 1992

As noted before, the Jonesboro marks are often troublesome, since most (but not all?) of the competitions at Earl Bell’s vault camps are held indoors, regardless of whether they are held at a time of year when most meets would be held outside.


The effects of these new marks on my original top ten lists would be:

Joe Dial’s 5.96 earns a place on the outdoor list.
Dean Starkey improves from 5.91 to 5.92 on the outdoor list.

Dial’s addition to the outdoor list bumps Pat Manson and Deryk Miles from the list.

Earl Bell’s 5.86 earns a place on the indoor list.
Daniel Ryland joins the five vaulters previously tied for the final place on the indoor list.

With those changes the indoor and outdoor lists, for now, would look like this:


USA Men's All-Time Outdoor Top Ten:

6.04 Brad Walker (1) Eugene 8 June 2008
6.03 Jeff Hartwig (1) Jonesboro 15 June 2000
6.01 Tim Mack (1) Monaco 18 September 2004
6.00 Toby Stevenson (1) Modesto 8 May 2004
5.98 Lawrence Johnson (1) Knoxville 25 May 1996
5.97 Scott Huffman (1) Knoxville 18 June 1994
5.96 Joe Dial (1) Norman 18 June 1987
5.92 Dean Starkey (1) Sao Paulo 21 May 1994
5.90 Jacob Davis (1) Austin 4 April 1998
5.90 Nick Hysong (1) Sydney 29 September 2000


USA Men's All-Time Indoor Top Ten
6.02 Jeff Hartwig (1) Sindelfingen 10 March 2002
5.96 Lawrence Johnson (1) Atlanta 3 March 2001
5.93 Billy Olsen (1) East Rutherford 8 February 1986
5.93 Tye Harvey (2) Atlanta 3 March 2001
5.91 Joe Dial (1) Columbia, MO 1 February 1986
5.86 Earl Bell (1) Portland 24 January 1987
5.85 Nick Hysong (2) Atlanta 27 February 1999
5.85 Jacob Davis (1) Indianapolis 6 March 1999
5.85 Tim Mack (2) Donetsk 24 February 2002
5.85 Derek Miles (1) Donetsk 15 February 2005
5.85 Daniel Ryland (1) Jonesboro 24 July 2005
5.85 Brad Walker (2) Valencia 9 March 2008

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Re: USA All-Time Top Ten

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:03 pm

I am not sure exactly when Earl built his building, but I am pretty sure any mark he set during the 80s in the outdoor season would be outdoors.

I know that Jeff's American record was set outdoors at Arkansas State's old outdoor track.

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Re: USA All-Time Top Ten

Unread postby dj » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:18 pm

hey

i'm thinking Earl built his building some time after he won the USATF at cerritos, 1990???

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Re: USA All-Time Top Ten

Unread postby vaultmd » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:35 am

I think the first time I was there was February or March 2002. It hadn't been around very long.

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Re: USA All-Time Top Ten

Unread postby kev44000 » Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:32 pm

Bell's opened fall of 1991





rainbowgirl28 wrote:I am not sure exactly when Earl built his building, but I am pretty sure any mark he set during the 80s in the outdoor season would be outdoors.

I know that Jeff's American record was set outdoors at Arkansas State's old outdoor track.


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