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Re: I'm confused...

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:56 pm

I think the more important issue is whether or not you have poles available that you can make the weight rating for? If you were in college, it wouldn't be an issue because you could just grip down on longer poles. But you are still in high school, so you have to vault on poles rated above your weight. I'd be surprised if you have access to anything useable rated over 180 or 185?

If you're going to need to drop 10 pounds to be able to pole vault at all this year, you should probably stay out of the weight room, do minimal body weight strength stuff, add more cardio, and eat better/less. It's not ideal, but it's also not ideal to be disqualified at your league championships because you're too heavy for all of the poles.

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Re: I'm confused...

Unread postby thecarney91 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:42 pm

yeah I got a 14' 190 thats the closest pole to my weight. I also have a 14' 180 and a 13' 185.. I wish high school didn't have to be so much different sometimes.
Since our school is like almost every other high school all of our money goes to football and basketball, and thats leaves little money for other sports. So that means I can't just go buy another pole for me..
This is kind of vague, but what would be better: eating more fruits and veggies or sticking with meat and carbs or just having a well rounded diet?

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Re: I'm confused...

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:13 pm

thecarney91 wrote:yeah I got a 14' 190 thats the closest pole to my weight. I also have a 14' 180 and a 13' 185.. I wish high school didn't have to be so much different sometimes.
Since our school is like almost every other high school all of our money goes to football and basketball, and thats leaves little money for other sports. So that means I can't just go buy another pole for me..
This is kind of vague, but what would be better: eating more fruits and veggies or sticking with meat and carbs or just having a well rounded diet?


For you, I think it would be best to eat as many veggies and fruits as possible (not deep fried!). You definitely want to be eating meat and grains, just try to stick with leaner cuts of meat (steak, grilled chicken breast, pork chops are all much better than hamburgers and fried chicken), and whole grains (brown is better than white).

NO POP/SODA!!! Just drink water. You don't need gatorade either. Switch to all water and see how you feel!

You'll have the most options for poles if you can get under 180. Which poles did you use last year? A 14'190 is a LOT bigger than a 13'185.

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Re: I'm confused...

Unread postby IAmTheWalrus » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:21 pm

NO POP/SODA!!! Just drink water. You don't need gatorade either. Switch to all water and see how you feel!


I disagree with this whole heartedly. I did something similar to this, and it lead to a lot of muscle pain and cramps from dehydration. Sounds contradictory, but your body needs salts and electrolytes in order to actually hydrate. Otherwise you just piss out all the water you drink along with nutrients. Drink water during workouts, but have some sort of sports drink (G2 is low cal, and powerade 0 is no cal) after practice. Maybe a small glass of oj in the morning and milk with dinner as well. Definitely avoid soda and super sugary drinks.
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Re: I'm confused...

Unread postby thecarney91 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:49 pm

You'll have the most options for poles if you can get under 180. Which poles did you use last year? A 14'190 is a LOT bigger than a 13'185.


yeah the 14'190 is for my full aproach of 7 rights. I use the smaller poles when I am at 5 steps. and about the water thing... I drink about 2 to 3 32 oz bottles a day :)

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Re: I'm confused...

Unread postby KirkB » Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:09 am

rainbowgirl28 wrote: ... You'll have the most options for poles if you can get under 180. Which poles did you use last year? A 14'190 is a LOT bigger than a 13'185.

RG, he weights ~195 so it's going to be awfully tough ... if not near impossible for Carney to lose 15 pounds between now and outdoor season (or even if you include the full outdoor season). It's going to be tough enough to get under 185.

Carney, I'd count on the 190 as your money pole, and work towards passing the weigh-in for that. If you can drop another 5-10 pounds then so much the better ... but don't knock yourself out to the point of starvation to make the weigh-in. If you have 15 lbs of fat to lose then no problem, but I suspect that your "extra" 15 lbs is more muscle than fat. At your age, height, and fitness level, you probably can't lose much more than 5-10 lbs at most ... without losing some strength.

I agree with the "NO POP" comment - far too much sugar - empty calories that you need to avoid. Try to cut out almost ALL sugar - you'll still get plenty of natural sugar in your fruit.

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Re: I'm confused...

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:44 am

IAmTheWalrus wrote:
NO POP/SODA!!! Just drink water. You don't need gatorade either. Switch to all water and see how you feel!


I disagree with this whole heartedly. I did something similar to this, and it lead to a lot of muscle pain and cramps from dehydration. Sounds contradictory, but your body needs salts and electrolytes in order to actually hydrate. Otherwise you just piss out all the water you drink along with nutrients. Drink water during workouts, but have some sort of sports drink (G2 is low cal, and powerade 0 is no cal) after practice. Maybe a small glass of oj in the morning and milk with dinner as well. Definitely avoid soda and super sugary drinks.


Most HS kids get enough salt and electrolytes in their diet, and are not doing intense enough workouts to need the supplementation from sports drinks. Ends up being a lot of extra sugar, and the ones with artificial sweeteners are pumping your body with even worse stuff.

Squeezing some fresh lemon or lime in your water adds electrolytes without all the sugar.


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