joebro391 wrote: ... (b)... i'm leaping 'too much' at take-off and it's killing my forward momentum. (as in, not jumping up and out, only up). Now, my leaping isn't totally killing my forward momentum, or else i wouldn't be able to get on the pole, period. But apparently i'm 'overly' leaping and it's slowing me down, enough, where when the tip of the pole hits the back of the box, my body just gets...i dont want to say 'ripped', because i'm not under, but i don't explode, UP, with the pole. ...
1. The way to decide whether you're jumping too much UP and not enough FORWARDS is by whether or not you're BRAKING. If your heel touches on takeoff, you're obvoiusly braking (LEAKAGE!). Otherwise, if you follow the JUMP LIKE HELL!!! principle, I wouldn't worry to much about any other side-effects of jumping too high.
2. You will find, obviously, that the longer your run the less you can jump UP without braking. That's OK. Your long run doesn't have to exactly emulate your short runs. Adjust according to the "braking principle". I actually like the idea (a lot!) of jumping higher on short runs than on long runs. That's how I did it, and I think it was one of those things that paid off for me. The reason is that the higher jump on short runs is an OVER-EMPHASIS, isolating a certain vault part (the jump). Then, once you move on to long runs, you will quite naturally try to jump higher than you really can (given higher runup speed). If all goes well, this results in a more optimal takeoff angle (not too high, not too low, just enough to make it flow). Compare that to trying to jump at exactly the same angle on short and long runs ... The faster approach will cause you to jump EVEN LOWER! This may be psychological, or it may be isoloation training. I think it's the latter, but even if it's the former, the proof is in the pudding! Correction: I'd say this is 90% isolation training and 10% psychological.
3. " ... it's killing my forward momentum ... " To do that, you must really be braking - A LOT! But if you're not braking, then I just don't understand. Braking is something that you should immediately recognize - or not. It doesn't take much post-jump analysis. Either you felt your heel touch down, or not.
4. If you're not braking, but you're losing forwards momentum, I'd look for a different reason. I don't know what it was, since I wasn't there, but I'll look for it in your next set of vids.
joebro391 wrote: Key Points:
-Not enough chest drive
-not hitting the pole aggressively enough?
-pushing the pole 'away' from me, opposed to above my head.
5. I know what you mean by "pushing" in this context, but I wish you wouldn't use that word. It's so easily confused with pushing on the pole to bend it AFTER takeoff - a big no-no. I suggest "punching", which is what Launder calls it. If we stick with BTB2 terms, we'll be using a common terminology.
[ducking from the grenades fired my way for being "creative" about the terms I use]
joebro391 wrote:... So finally my run is improving, and i'm taking off taller and fast, but I'm messing something else up {sigh}. Let me know what you guys think about this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUk1VfA1bDg This is old, but if you watch the first jump, I think i'm doing what Mike see's me do, now. I don't think i do it so bad anymore, but this is the closest thing i have.
6. I'm sorry, but I'm not having any luck looking at takeoffs. They're too fast. I tried to get some slo-mo tools that "master" hooked me up with, but I couldn't get them working. Does anyone have a suggestion for me re this? Is everyone using special software tools, or are you just clicking on/off the pause/run icon?
Kirk
The heel doesn't exactly hit first, but the whole foot more or less together...
NOT PULLING, but rowing. It's a concept that has always confused me. I know that you're not supposed to do it, but I just dont' know how to avoid it. I mean, I just don't know how to swing up, without putting some pressure on the pole, to help me along. I guess it's from not swinging hard enough. {sigh} 
