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Rings?

Unread postby miniwhinny » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:48 pm

okay...I did a search for rings..got lots of people mentioning they use rings but not much help for me...

So tell me about rings...what they are used for and if you were to make a set how high and how far apart?

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Re: Rings?

Unread postby miniwhinny » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:53 pm

Oh it's okay...youtubed it hahah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYryEgv5-ug

got all my answers in one spot O:-)

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Re: Rings?

Unread postby powerplant42 » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:46 pm

Something you should know about rings... They're not as good as a high bar. ;)
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Re: Rings?

Unread postby miniwhinny » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:19 pm

well that's good to know because I was just watching a video of someone working out on them and they sure looked like they were putting a lot of jerky action on the users shoulders. Back to plan #1 :D

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Re: Rings?

Unread postby KirkB » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:59 pm

If you're only building one apparatus, highbar is best. But rings and rope are also important for learning how to manipulate your body in the air whilst hanging onto the pole, and it also adds to the fun. I recommend all 3.

In another thread, we discussed the issue of how to add a shock-absorbing mechanism to the rings. This is illegal for competitive gymnastics, but would be ideal for PV training.

If you haven't already found it, read this thread: http://www.polevaultpower.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=17408

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Re: Rings?

Unread postby powerplant42 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:15 am

If you did things in a really smart manner, you could probably set up a high bar that could have rings attached to it whenever you wanted (not to mention a rope)... Maybe I'll make some drawings of some possibilities. Sound cool?
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Re: Rings?

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:48 am

powerplant42 wrote:If you did things in a really smart manner, you could probably set up a high bar that could have rings attached to it whenever you wanted (not to mention a rope)... Maybe I'll make some drawings of some possibilities. Sound cool?


Either the high bar would be too high, or the rings would be too short and you would hit your legs on the bar/be unable to swing.

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Re: Rings?

Unread postby VaultPurple » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:54 am

yeah our coach had that idea... he tied roap to bigger high bar but we kept swinging into the wooden post. We had some homemade rings on there too that were good for strength stuff but not swinging.

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Re: Rings?

Unread postby powerplant42 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:08 am

What if you could RAISE the bar? As in make it vertically mobile...?
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Re: Rings?

Unread postby miniwhinny » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:39 am

I hava a great steel company here in town that will make me anything (of course with a price :( ;) ) Their 2" (outside diameter) steel comes in 21ft lengths so I could easily make a high bar with rope or swing hanging on it that's quite high and could be quite wide to prevent hitting the sides. If I came off one of the uprights with a T I could make the high bars at an angle to add to the stability of the whole thing (if you can picture what I'm saying)

Do you think that would work?

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Re: Rings?

Unread postby miniwhinny » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:40 am

powerplant42 wrote:Maybe I'll make some drawings of some possibilities. Sound cool?


Sounds very cool :D

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Re: Rings?

Unread postby KirkB » Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:53 pm

miniwhinny wrote: ... Their 2" (outside diameter) steel comes in 21ft lengths so I could easily make a high bar with rope or swing hanging on it that's quite high and could be quite wide to prevent hitting the sides. If I came off one of the uprights with a T I could make the high bars at an angle to add to the stability of the whole thing (if you can picture what I'm saying)

Do you think that would work?

For the reasons Becca explained, hanging rings from a highbar is a bad idea. You could, however, put the 3 apparatus side-by-side, so that you save the cost and space of uprights. Independently (unless you use some of the trees on your property to hang the rope), you would need 6 uprights. Side-by-side, you'd only need 4 uprights.

If your pipe is in 21 foot lengths, then allowing a few feet into the ground, you'd have maybe an 18 foot high cross-section to hang the rings and rope from. That's about right. Maybe if it's solid enough you could hang the rings and rope from the same cross-piece, so you'd only need 3 uprights.

The highbar MUST be at it's own proper level. Not so high that it's dangerous, and not so low that you can't swing with a long trail leg. Also allow for Matt growing in the next few years, and allow for some of his taller friends coming over. There's also some drills that you can do where you jog up to the bar, jump up and grasp it, then swing. For these drills, the height needs to be "optimized" for each vaulter ... according to their height and their jumping ability. An ADJUSTABLE height for the highbar is highly desirable for these reasons.

I'm not sure what you mean by a "T", but maybe it's this ...

If you're using 2" steel for the uprights, then you could get 2 steel (or plastic) sleeves in the shape of a "T" and slightly bigger diameter than 2", so that the T on each side of the highbar slides up and down to adjust the height. You could have bolt-holes and bolts on the uprights ... drilled every 2-3 inches ... to adjust the height.

One minor problem you'll find with this is that the T joints will be 2" on all 3 openings.I forget the ideal highbar diameter, but it's a lot smaller than 2". So you'll need to buy a couple more pieces that reduce the 2" down to the diameter of the highbar. These are likely available at any plumbing supplies outlet.

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