Russian Style Pole Vaulting..

VaultBrad · Unread postby **VaultBrad** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:05 am

i believe completely in the free take off and the whole russian method. i have done as much thinking about different styles as any one andeverything about the russian method makes more sense to me. another reason is that whenever i actually hit the free take off the vault feels so much better and i move through bigger poles. it takes all the stress off the lower back, as apposed to an under take off which automatically puts alot of stress on your lower back. i reccomend to evry one that you all buy or borrow From Beginner to Bubka by Alan G. Launder and John T. Gormley. i already knew that i believed in the russian method, but this book opened my eyes to a few things that i hadnt thought about before. it is a must read.

USMC Vaulter · Unread postby **USMC Vaulter** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:00 am

VaultBrad wrote: i reccomend to evry one that you all buy or borrow From Beginner to Bubka by Alan G. Launder and John T. Gormley. i already knew that i believed in the russian method, but this book opened my eyes to a few things that i hadnt thought about before. it is a must read.

Agreed

I'm not sure whether or not I completely agree with or prefer the Russian/eastern european method - HOWEVER VaultBrad is completely correct - From Beginner to Bubka is a must read for all vaulters. In my opinion its the best vaulting book I've ever seen/read.

Also - It seems like alot of young American vaulters are using/trying out the eastern european method, so it'll be interesting to see if anyone emerges as an 'American great' who uses this method as opposed to the traditional American approach. And please dont think that I'm downing on the russian method - personally I'd like to explore it more myself - I just dont want to label any specific way of vaulting as 'THE WAY' because incredible results have been achieved from many different styles.

VaultNinja · Unread postby **VaultNinja** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:04 pm

vaulter870 wrote:hmm i personaly find that it isnt really a certain style that any one group has but rather some things that eveyone has to do and then from there it is a persons own style cause we cant all jump alike

I agree.
Everyone is different. Get over Bubka, your not going to be him.

How many times are we going to go over this topic on this board. We have picked it apart for pages and pages of opinions and assumptions. Can't we find something new to talk about.

The fact of the matter is, I don't care how much "thinking" anyone has done about it. I have seen statistical, physical, and scientific dartfish video analysis that has proven that there is no best method for everyone. And I even posted some of the stuff last time we argued about this. People are different, and what works for you, is what you should do.

And obviously my coach does NOT preach the free takeoff, and he is no slouch.

vaulter870 · Unread postby **vaulter870** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:41 pm

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vaulter870 wrote:
hmm i personaly find that it isnt really a certain style that any one group has but rather some things that eveyone has to do and then from there it is a persons own style cause we cant all jump alike

I agree.
Everyone is different. Get over Bubka, your not going to be him.

How many times are we going to go over this topic on this board. We have picked it apart for pages and pages of opinions and assumptions. Can't we find something new to talk about.

The fact of the matter is, I don't care how much "thinking" anyone has done about it. I have seen statistical, physical, and scientific dartfish video analysis that has proven that there is no best method for everyone. And I even posted some of the stuff last time we argued about this. People are different, and what works for you, is what you should do.

And obviously my coach does NOT preach the free takeoff, and he is no slouch

so true!!!!

master · Unread postby **master** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:54 pm

VaultNinja wrote:How many times are we going to go over this topic on this board. We have picked it apart for pages and pages of opinions and assumptions. Can't we find something new to talk about.

Is it OK for some of us who haven't been on the board since its inception to discuss the pros and cons of different jumping styles. I myself think I can learn something from many different sources.

VaultNinja wrote:I have seen statistical, physical, and scientific dartfish video analysis that has proven that there is no best method for everyone.

That may be, but why try to squelch the discussion. It would seem an easy thing to just not look at this particular topic and save yourself some frustration.

I'm not trying to be critical, just letting you hear a different perspective.

Mecham · Unread postby **Mecham** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:42 pm

I just want to applaud you all! you guys sure know your stuff. :yes:

VaultBrad · Unread postby **VaultBrad** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:44 pm

my goal in life is to know as much about pole vaulting and related topics as i possibly can

izzystikchik · Unread postby **izzystikchik** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:45 pm

I agree with master, i'm interested to know about vaulting styles too, and there are a lot of peeps who have'nt seen the earlier posts about this topic, you should just read and not respond if this is aggrivating you...

mcminkz05 · Unread postby **mcminkz05** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:38 am

VaultBrad wrote:my goal in life is to know as much about pole vaulting and related topics as i possibly can

Amen!

zack · Unread postby **zack** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:22 am

VaultBrad wrote:my goal in life is to know as much about pole vaulting and related topics as i possibly can

No offense but I really hope thats not your only goal in life.

Bruce Caldwell · Unread postby **Bruce Caldwell** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:34 am

zack wrote:
VaultBrad wrote:my goal in life is to know as much about pole vaulting and related topics as i possibly can

No offense but I really hope thats not your only goal in life.

IT was a good goal for me? GRIN

VaultNinja · Unread postby **VaultNinja** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:59 pm

master wrote:
VaultNinja wrote:How many times are we going to go over this topic on this board. We have picked it apart for pages and pages of opinions and assumptions. Can't we find something new to talk about.

Is it OK for some of us who haven't been on the board since its inception to discuss the pros and cons of different jumping styles. I myself think I can learn something from many different sources.

VaultNinja wrote:I have seen statistical, physical, and scientific dartfish video analysis that has proven that there is no best method for everyone.

That may be, but why try to squelch the discussion. It would seem an easy thing to just not look at this particular topic and save yourself some frustration. I'm not trying to be critical, just letting you hear a different perspective.

If your thirst for knowledge about this subject is so extreme than you will read these threads. Enjoy

http://polevaultpower.com/forum/viewtop ... ght=#31610
http://polevaultpower.com/forum/viewtop ... sc&start=0

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