Russian Style Pole Vaulting..

[agapit]

I respectfully disagree re steel technique because everything i have read and seen on film suggests that the best stiff pole vaulters deliberately tried to delay the initial swing on the pole -the swing was the emphasis, not a rapid initial pull.

I, in my turn, should respectfully disagree. The only delay that steel vaulters (40+ inches push) used were completion of the jump of the ground that led with the deep chest penetration to the pole. However, the difference with the fiberglass is that the left hand and right as well (on the steel) are still ahead of the center of gravity and is in the position to pull center of gravity up. On the fiberglass one cannot do this, because left hand and right are behind center of gravity and cannot immediately pull center of gravity up, unless….

[altius]

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[izzystikchik]

agapit -'f thas yur reel name - yu thing yur tuf -do ya wanna cum outside?? Altius

Nice accent

[agapit]

agapit -'f thas yur reel name - yu thing yur tuf -do ya wanna cum outside?? Altius

I alawys thgouh yuo are unqiue.

And I whish I could come outside where you are. Down under there.

[altius]

Incidentally -which steel vaulter pushed 40 inches??

[altius]

Vaultninja - Picking up a comment you made earlier that everyone is different and should jump their own way. Can you explain how you decide what you are doing well and where perhaps you are not so efficient in your technique. Do you decide on the basis 'that felt like a good jump' - you had a good clearance - you prd? How can you be certain that you need to improve some aspect of technique - or that you already doing everything perfectly? What is your technical template?



Thought for the week, 'What is technically desirable must be physically possible'

[dj]

guys... everyone needs to find a copy of the 1973 edition of ganslens' book.. pole vault mechanics.. august edition..

much of what we have been talking about is there...

really sometimes i wish i could get the credit for the things i teach...but i'm happy with how i teach and i'm glad i have had ganslens' research to relay on.(and others). just wish i had keep it close more often..

what ganslen did well was how to apply the data.. and logic..

for example... stating that your take-off could be "on" but be very wrong.
and then explain why!!!!

at least now we have an opportunity to pass in further into the future....

dj

[rainbowgirl28]

guys... everyone needs to find a copy of the 1973 edition of ganslens' book.. pole vault mechanics.. august edition..

I wish... it sells for ~$100 on Ebay

[master]

... The solution to this problem is THE KEY innovation and the difference. So it is not the pole carry, or a free takeoff, or any other noticeable differences, but the ability to invert immediately after the takeoff beginning and accelerating the inversion with arms. ...

Would you please describe this in more detail, especially the "beginning and accelerating the inversion with arms". Is this a conscious application of strength by the arms, pushing the pole forward, trying to get the hands back in front of the body's center of gravity? Is this what some coaches call "rowing"? In addition to explaining what the vaulter should do with the arms, please explain why the vaulter should do this. Thanks!
- master

[agapit]

Incidentally -which steel vaulter pushed 40 inches??

American Ron Morris is one of them 42"

[gtc]

On the fiberglass one cannot do this, because left hand and right are behind center of gravity and cannot immediately pull center of gravity up, unless…. [/quote]

Hands are starting to move as the tip hit's the back of the box?

[agapit]

On the fiberglass one cannot do this, because left hand and right are behind center of gravity and cannot immediately pull center of gravity up, unless….

Hands are starting to move as the tip hit's the back of the box?[/quote]

Well, move where?