i NEED TO MOVE UP A POLE 15' 9" or 16'

[Barto]

How about clearing 15' gripping 13'9" on a 15' pole? That would be the best scenario offered so far.

[OAKPV2004]

How about clearing 15' gripping 13'9" on a 15' pole? That would be the best scenario offered so far.

a high school vaulter from NJ cleared 16'2" on a 15' pole holding 13'10" this year.

[Barto]

How about clearing 15' gripping 13'9" on a 15' pole? That would be the best scenario offered so far.

a high school vaulter from NJ cleared 16'2" on a 15' pole holding 13'10" this year.

That's what I am talking about! Good jump!

Barto

[Skyin' Brian]

i would rather clear >15' on a 15' pole than 15' on a 14' pole.

I wouldn't, in reality you would probably get the feeling that you are going higher on a shorter pole than clearing the same height on a longer pole. I mean 14' on a 15' needs attention to rockback more, perhaps this vaulter should raise a bungee to about 18' and try to kick it and learn to use a longer pole so he clears heights like he should with an appropriate grip height. about 14'7" grip should be a 16' jump on average. Swing from your shoulders and get off the end of the pole.

i know what point you are trying to make and i agree that technique is more important than height in some cases(the short term especially) but you cant overlook the fact that the goal of vaulting is to go higher and ultimately this will be determined by how high you can grip. some athletes get the technique first, some get the ability to grip high.
dont train yourself to grip low. a low grip will not take you to your potential. this by no means means grip unsafely high, but dont get too comfortable with the size pole that you are currently on.

[Robert schmitt]

The problem is when your PR is well BELOW your top hand, moving the hand gripping higher is going to make it harder to swing and time up with the pole and take longer to develope the correct tech. So why would you want to do something that is going to slow down your ability to jump high????

[Skyin' Brian]

i guess it all depends on how big the 15' pole is. if he is bending the crap out of a pole at his body weight, then a lower grip is needed, but if the pole is significantly above his body weight and he is blowing through then maybe a bigger pole would be good.

[OAKPV2004]

i would rather clear >15' on a 15' pole than 15' on a 14' pole.

I wouldn't, in reality you would probably get the feeling that you are going higher on a shorter pole than clearing the same height on a longer pole. I mean 14' on a 15' needs attention to rockback more, perhaps this vaulter should raise a bungee to about 18' and try to kick it and learn to use a longer pole so he clears heights like he should with an appropriate grip height. about 14'7" grip should be a 16' jump on average. Swing from your shoulders and get off the end of the pole.

i know what point you are trying to make and i agree that technique is more important than height in some cases(the short term especially) but you cant overlook the fact that the goal of vaulting is to go higher and ultimately this will be determined by how high you can grip. some athletes get the technique first, some get the ability to grip high.
dont train yourself to grip low. a low grip will not take you to your potential. this by no means means grip unsafely high, but dont get too comfortable with the size pole that you are currently on.

Yes, this is true. Tommy skipper is an example of this, he was using very big poles at first to clear lower than hand hold heights, now he clears much higher than his handhold.

[lonestar]

How about clearing 15' gripping 13'9" on a 15' pole? That would be the best scenario offered so far.

a high school vaulter from NJ cleared 16'2" on a 15' pole holding 13'10" this year.

How tall is the dude? I'm 5'10 and jump overtop of a 13'10 grip from beyond 8 steps - the pole doesn't even bend. If he's really short and doesn't jump off the ground, I can see how it would work, but for me, if I'm gripping 13'10 from beyond 8 steps, I might as well slide my bottom hand up to my top hand like Warmerdam, Richards, or Bragg, because I'm straight poling it.

[PV Knox]

I'm 6' 2". At camp I was jumping a little over half a foot over my grip jumping 13' 11" holding at 13' 4." I might be able to jump my grip on a bigger pole if I had a pole I wouldn't blow through. I might try moving my hand down to make it a little stiffer, I'll see how that works.

[vaultguru6]

Yes, this is true. Tommy skipper is an example of this, he was using very big poles at first to clear lower than hand hold heights, now he clears much higher than his handhold.

It's been a lonnnnnnnng time since tommy has jumped under his hand hold. Maybe he was on big poles, but not jumping under his hand hold. He jumped 15'6" in 8th grade, and I can guarantee you he wasn't on a 5 meter pole then! Actually this is his first year on them. And if by "much higher than his hand hold" you mean a 40 inches, then yea, you're right.

[Robert schmitt]

I'm 6' 2". At camp I was jumping a little over half a foot over my grip jumping 13' 11" holding at 13' 4." I might be able to jump my grip on a bigger pole if I had a pole I wouldn't blow through. I might try moving my hand down to make it a little stiffer, I'll see how that works.

Moving your hand down on the same pole with the same run it going to cause you to blow through even more. You would have to shorten your run and probably drop down a few poles to make that work. The best thing to do is find a stiffer 15' pole.

[Bruce Caldwell]

[color=brown][b]Ok let’s talk about blowing through.
I agree when you are holding on a pole and jumping at or slightly over your grip it is possible to blow through the pole, but not if you are not jumping over your hand grip. Jumping 14’ and moving to a 15’9â€Â