What kind of running workout?

[vaultmd]

As a masters athlete, I've discovered that rest periods are important.




I'm about a year into my current one.

[OH-IOvaulter]

Just my two cents that the shorter sprints with the proper rest is the only way to go. Conditioning this far into the season is a bit of a lost cause, but a solid athlete should still be able to go for good distance runs without risking injury. If you are going to condition however it should be done after drills, you should never do them while tired as your form will suffer. But Altius is right in that its only a means to an end. I agree with Sebes as well though that a great deal of athletes can't finish workouts and complain of pain simply because they don't treat their bodies correctly. A solid warm up, stretching, COOL DOWNS, stretching afterwards as well, icing religiously; no matter what the work out is.

[dj]

specificity in training

there is and old "proverb" in the physical eduaction field.

"SAID" principal...

Specific Adaptations to Imposed Demands………

do what you gotta do... and do it well..

that is why we need to be jumping from long runs much more than not....

form running with the pole... approach runs on the track for speed.. planting into a sliding box or towel..


dj

[oncrack021]

pole runs... run about 40-60m holding the top of your pole.
it will help you get alot faster on the runway

[thecarney91]

I started conditioning for next season by doing the 400 hurdles so when the season comes around I will be decent in the 300 hurdles and have endurance for doing multiple events

[baggettpv]

There is alot of different ideas on the training of Pole Vaulters there is...the event is a complete athletic event so in my thoughts you train to be a complete athlete..

Rick Baggett
WSTC LLC

[baggettpv]

Oh yeah,
If you can work on a farm changing Irrigation Hand Lines are effective if you sprint from one pipe to the other (40 ft). doing 200 in the mornings and evenings gets you tough (I did 400). Then when the hay is bailed you can work the hand stacking. 90 lb. bails are the best for building that strength endurance needed before the power phase. By the time school comes around you get thankful for being able to sit down for awhile. We never could figure out what the city kids did.

Rick Baggett
WSTC LLC

[sooch90]

Oh yeah,
If you can work on a farm changing Irrigation Hand Lines are effective if you sprint from one pipe to the other (40 ft). doing 200 in the mornings and evenings gets you tough (I did 400). Then when the hay is bailed you can work the hand stacking. 90 lb. bails are the best for building that strength endurance needed before the power phase. By the time school comes around you get thankful for being able to sit down for awhile. We never could figure out what the city kids did.

Rick Baggett
WSTC LLC

I see, yeah so I tried this, and I ran into a couple problems. My irrigation handlines are more like 80 feet apart, and inbetween the lines there is fertilizer (manure). It's creates about a 6 inch layer on top of the soft soil. Initially I thought this would be cool because it would be more difficult to complete each run, and hopefully I'd get in better shape. However, on my like 10th run, my foot got snagged on a root or something, and I fell face first into the dung. My pops got pissed that I was wasting time instead of working, and so wouldn't let me wash up. So I worked all day with poo on my face. I wouldn't have cared, I got used to the smell in a bit, but then my friends saw me while I was at at the farm's fruit stand and they made fun of me.

I've never felt so humiliated in my life.




lol just kidding

[vault3rb0y]

No you dont gotta do ----- ! Good job you are still an athlete and not a coach 3po. Take a look at training theory for developing increased sprint speed.

Stick to asking questions - or even try reading a book or two - rather than expressing opinions of dubious accuracy. Then we will stay pvp buddies.

I state this based on every coach, high school and college level, that i have met. Some focus more on 100-200 than 30-50m sprints, but all include the two. Many include conditioning early in the season so that when you run the 30-50m sprints, you can run 20 of them and not just 10 before you are whipped. I completely understand the idea of only doing what is necessary and relevant to the demands of the sport, and that because we do not run more than 30m down the runway, we shouldn't have to run more than 30m on the track. But i also think that especially for high school and college level athletes, we have not developed our conditioning enough to the point of exclusively running 30m dashes. I think that running 100s every once in a while will make you faster. Maybe when i'm majoring in this sort of thing at Penn State, i will research it with people who have never run before. Some will just do 30s and some will do a combination of conditioning, 100s and below. Should be interesting .

[VaultPurple]

all season long i just vault..... i really think that our vault practices are twice as hard as the sprinter practices because when using bigger poles you cant get lazy or you wont make it into the pit anymore, so you basicaly have to run fast every time where sprinters can slack off when they get tiard. This is also mainly because in high school our meets are on wednsdays and that compleatly messes up any type of structured practice. But over the summer i am doing mainly form running with like 40m high knees, skips, and quick sprints...... im with becca on the conditioning in the pool, there is no reason to waist your legs running a mile when a few 500s in the pool will get you all the conditioning you will ever want. I accualy have to be careful swimming because if im not careful ill start losing weight fast. So if you think you need to slim down a liittle it is definetly the place to go!

[powerplant42]

Let me just throw out there that most short distance swimmers, are JACKED... If you have access to a pool or whatever, USE IT! The weight you'll lose will be fat, not muscle, so it's really a win/win.

[VaultPurple]

yeah u wont have a drop of fat on ur body with enough swimming. long distance will get it off fast, but short will build up muscle fast too. I am always in my best condition at the end of swim season.