Where did they come from?
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Re: Where did they come from?
Kolby Shepherd (Liberty University). 14' in High School and has now cleared 17'7 as a Junior in college.
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Re: Where did they come from?
Lawrence Johnson had a pretty good improvement after high school, he was, however, a 17'6 guy in high school. 17'6 to 5.98m, whatever that is, 19'8.5?
Another guy was Jeremy Scott, jumped something like 16'6 or so in high school and ended up jumping 5.70m or 5.75m at Allegheny.
Another guy was Jeremy Scott, jumped something like 16'6 or so in high school and ended up jumping 5.70m or 5.75m at Allegheny.
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Re: Where did they come from?
In defense of the "American Collegiate System".
(I put in quotes because it doesn't really exist. Circumstances vary so wildly from school to school that it is not very accurate to clump them all together in one category.)
17/18 yr old females are not 20/21 yr old females. Their motivations and life choices are vastly different. Many females are socialized to a level of passivity that it makes it very difficult for them to function independently when they enter university. Other females are more independent, but can't wait to get out from under parents'/coaches' control and make their own decisions. Neither of these groups are likely to have huge success in college.
The successful female college athlete is academically prepared for university work. She is independent enough to carry out instructions without supervision from coaches, trainers, or administrators. She can make good life choices regarding diet and social life. She is coachable and mentally stable. She is physically talented.
How successful the individual is usually can be predicted or evaluated based upon how well they fit the above description.
my 2 cents
(I put in quotes because it doesn't really exist. Circumstances vary so wildly from school to school that it is not very accurate to clump them all together in one category.)
17/18 yr old females are not 20/21 yr old females. Their motivations and life choices are vastly different. Many females are socialized to a level of passivity that it makes it very difficult for them to function independently when they enter university. Other females are more independent, but can't wait to get out from under parents'/coaches' control and make their own decisions. Neither of these groups are likely to have huge success in college.
The successful female college athlete is academically prepared for university work. She is independent enough to carry out instructions without supervision from coaches, trainers, or administrators. She can make good life choices regarding diet and social life. She is coachable and mentally stable. She is physically talented.
How successful the individual is usually can be predicted or evaluated based upon how well they fit the above description.
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Re: Where did they come from?
Kylie Hutson 4 time NCAA national champ had a high school PR of 11'9". Last year she jumped 4.51 = 14'9!
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Re: Where did they come from?
North Central College in illinois had a guy named steve stack who went from 12-6 his Sr. year of highschool to 16-3 which might not b too terribly impressive but nearly 4 feet is prety solid
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Re: Where did they come from?
[quote="titanpv07"]North Central College in illinois had a guy named steve stack who went from 12-6 his Sr. year of highschool to 16-3 which might not b too terribly impressive but nearly 4 feet is prety solid[/quote]
NCC has an amazing program with an incredibly smart coach. I was lucky enough to be part of the program until injury stopped my college career. Rachel Secrest was also an 11' or 11'6 vaulter in h.s. and jumped 13'2 1/4 in college. Great results from a DIII school.
NCC has an amazing program with an incredibly smart coach. I was lucky enough to be part of the program until injury stopped my college career. Rachel Secrest was also an 11' or 11'6 vaulter in h.s. and jumped 13'2 1/4 in college. Great results from a DIII school.
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Re: Where did they come from?
Rachel Secrest jumped 13' 5 1/4" in 2009.
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Re: Where did they come from?
That's what I meant, I typed a two instead.
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Re: Where did they come from?
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Re: Where did they come from?
VaultPurple wrote:dj wrote:good morning..
how about starting with each one of these.... i would like to know where each came from...
there is only 3/4 that i know much about...
on the mens side.. T-Mack had/has a pretty good story...
dj
1 Tina Sutej JR Arkansas 4.45m 14-7 ¼ 10 (Jumped over 13 in Europe before college)
2 Katerina Stefanidi JR Stanford 4.40m 14-5 ¼ 8 (Jumped 14'4 Before college)
3 Natalie Willer SR Nebraska 4.35m 14-3 ¼ 6 (Jumped 13'1 in high school)
4 Melissa Gergel SR Oregon 4.35m 14-3 ¼ 5 (Jumped 13'2 in high school)
5 Denise vonEynatten SR South Florida 4.30m 14-1 ¼ 4 (Jumped over 14 in high school)
6 Tara Diebold JR Arkansas 4.30m 14-1 ¼ 3 (Jumped 13 in high school)
7 Samantha Sonnenberg SR Minnesota 4.25m 13-11 ¼ 2 (Jumped 12'6 in high school)
8 Allison Stokke SR California 4.10m 13-5 ¼ 1 (13'7 in high school)
9 Kelly Phillips SR Virginia Tech 4.10m 13-5 ¼ (Did not vault in high school, but was high level gymnast and dad is VT coach)
9 Joanna Wright SR Georgia Tech 4.10m 13-5 ¼ (12'1 in high school, fairly good sprinter and hurdler)
11 Sandi Morris FR North Carolina 4.00m 13-1 ½ (13'1 in high school, sub 15 100hh and is pretty tall)
12 Amy Fryt SR Duke 4.00m 13-1 ½ (11'7 in high school)
NH Rachel Fisher SO BYU (13+ high school)
NH Sonia Grabowska JR Utah State (member of Polish national team in high school)
NH Leslie Brost JR North Dakota St. (13'5 in high school)
NH Christen Botteron JR BYU (only result i can see is 11'6 in high school)
NH Shade Weygandt SO Texas Tech (14' high school)
So out of this group the biggest improvements come from Amy Fryt, Joanna Wright, Christen Botteron, and Samantha Sonnenberg.
The one that seems to really go and get it without knowing if she could vault in college is Christen Botteron who was told by BYU her senior year they would only talk to her about walking on if she jumped 11'6 (PR was 10'8). Joanna Wright just kind of jumped on the scene last year but I trained at same club as her in high school and could never figure out how she was only jumping 11'6 and 12' at meets because she was so fast and had really good technique, clearing some pretty good heights in practice. Fryt also had one of the largest improvements going from 11'7 to over 14' (and she is like 5'3).
I think Sonnenberg jumped 13' in HS, but can only find a 12'6" result right now.
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Re: Where did they come from?
Sonnenberg only went 12'6 in HS.
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