The longest lasting POLE TIP DISCOVERED

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The longest lasting POLE TIP DISCOVERED

Unread postby Bruce Caldwell » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:05 am

Well we have discovered something!!!!

A FLAME POLE TIP
LOOKS LIKE A FLAME

One person on this site has been chosen to test the tip guess who and ask him about it!!!
Only three have been made and they are out for testing.
SO NONE FOR SALE OK
This is not a sales pitch but a discovery

Earl Bell took a whole day to see if he could drag it, hit it, bust through it with a pole to no avail.
HOW MUCH IS THAT WORTH?

It is the best pole tip design and material made an engineering marvel.
HOW MUCH IS THIS WORTH?

The design of the pole tip increases the angle in the box to provide more penetration allowing the vaulter to get on a slightly stiffer pole .25 flex stiffer for the potential of jumping higher.
OK so you do not miss this;
YES a pole tip that has the potential to help you jump higher!!!
HOW MUCH IS THAT WORTH?

The back of the tip has less drag and aerodynamically designed to reduce wear and drag into the vault box.
HOW MUCH IS THAT WORTH?

The first prototypes are expensive but if they last a long time cost may not be a factor..

SO HOW MUCH IS ALL THIS WORTH TO A VAULTER?

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Re: The longest lasting POLE TIP DISCOVERED

Unread postby vaultguru6 » Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:59 am

ESSX wrote:The design of the pole tip increases the angle in the box to provide more penetration allowing the vaulter to get on a slightly stiffer pole .25 flex stiffer for the potential of jumping higher.


Very interesting. Certainly a breakthrough if it works. May I ask for a detailed, yet lamen terms description of how this works?

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FLAME TIP

Unread postby Bruce Caldwell » Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:41 am

Yes if the angle of the box is 105 degrees but you could move the angle back more the pole would have more room to bend without being stopped by the back of the box. A greater angle can be produced by not allowing the pole tip to be flush with the box. thus a greater angle more bending room, more penitration. Stiffer pole is easier to bend.

The original and a simular concept was patented by Dave Johnson.

What is more important is the space age material used to resit cutting of the material from the pole.

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Unread postby jhesch » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:31 pm

my understanding is that you're poles dont hit the back of the box, made to be stiff on bottom with higher bend. havent paid close enough attention on video to check to see if mine do...if If I am correct, will these tips make a difference on ESSX poles in terms of how they're supposed to help (keeping poles from hitting back of box, etc.)? Thanks,
Jody
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Unread postby fong520 » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:47 pm

i want a cool flame pole tip... :( :crying:
i run, therefore im buff.

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Unread postby Bruce Caldwell » Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:47 pm

jhesch wrote:my understanding is that you're poles dont hit the back of the box, made to be stiff on bottom with higher bend. havent paid close enough attention on video to check to see if mine do...if If I am correct, will these tips make a difference on ESSX poles in terms of how they're supposed to help (keeping poles from hitting back of box, etc.)? Thanks,
Jody


the pole will hit the back of the box the bottom will remain away from the back of the box to create a greater angle of the pole in the box.

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Unread postby Skyin' Brian » Sat Apr 24, 2004 9:49 pm

so, does this mean that if the angle of the back of the box was greater, then it would be easier to get on poles?

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Unread postby lonestar » Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:29 am

Skyin' Brian wrote:so, does this mean that if the angle of the back of the box was greater, then it would be easier to get on poles?


If the back of the box would be less steep, poles would roll over more easily, because they're not being stopped by the impact at the top of the box as soon, so theoretically you could hold higher and possible move stiffer poles. The German coach wrote a proposal I believe to the IAAF with a request to decrease the angle (slope forward toward the pit more), but I don't believe he had any luck convincing them to do it.
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INTERESTING USES FOR THE NEW TIP

Unread postby Bruce Caldwell » Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:58 pm

INTERESTING USES FOR THE NEW TIP

An interesting and funny comment

hey i got the tip today, thanks for sendin it so quick. it fit the pole i was using very snugly, worked well. perhaps it added to my vault, im blowin through it pretty good (its the fifth in a series of poles ive used, most stiff) jumpin w/ standards of 31. next week im gonna try out a 14 foot, i think 185. (pacer, flex of 13. somethin) so anyways, about the tip, looked great to me, felt solid as heck. may i ask what it is made of or is that an industry secret? lol. it bounces well! i threw it hard as possible at ground, bounced like a golf ball. i think it would make a great chew toy, i was gonna see what kind of number my golden retriever could do on it, but decided to use it (of course) and didnt want him to choke1 lol. it would make a good 'prop' on "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" (rudolph nose, clown nose, world record zit, among other things, haha) so do you want me to mention it on the forum? thanks again, i think after im done this season i may use it for a good shift knob in my standard car. haha and send you a picture. take care,
Well that was funny thanks Jody let me know if it wears through OK

:D :D :D :D :D :D

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Unread postby jhesch » Sat May 01, 2004 10:18 am

oh jeez didnt know that was goin up here. well for anyone curious, it looks like a great tip to me, worked well on my pole, though im not sure if it was too beneficial do to the fact that im already blowin through all my poles. sturdy as heck though! PM if you want anymore info, it would indeed make for the ultimate chew toy. if you wanna see it on a program ( dont know the name, kinda like one of them acrobat programs, i apologize for my computer illiteracy) let me know, i have a cool file of it on my comp. very interesting design worth checkin out, worth investing in! Flame Tip = Ultimate Chew Toy = Ultimate Pole Tip :P

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Unread postby theflyingkorean » Sat May 01, 2004 3:32 pm

How would one go about purchasing on of these? Demoing?

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Unread postby jhesch » Sat May 01, 2004 3:32 pm

k i was jokin about the chew toy part, just to emphasize how strong it is.


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