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Tim Mack's Stats

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:56 am

Tim Mack emailed me back with his stats for the 6 meter club. Still waiting on Toby...

I'll have the page updated later today.

height: 6'2
weight: 175 (80 kilos)
grip: 16'4 (5 meters)
speed last 5 m: ? (9.5m/sec)
flex: 12.6
age began: 13
14: 10'6
17: 13'6
20: 17'5
23: 18'4
27: 19'
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Re: Tim Mack's Stats

Unread postby Scott Go Pre » Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:40 pm

rainbowgirl28 wrote:14: 10'6
17: 13'6
20: 17'5


This sounds close to my stats
14: 10'6"
17: 14'0"
20: waiting to compete at this age
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Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:02 am

OK the 6 meter club stats have been updated and I added some new stuff. Kellie, tell Toby to email me his stats already :P

If anyone knows any of Toby's stats you can email them to me becca@polevaultpower.com


http://www.polevaultpower.com/6mclub.php
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Unread postby tim hutzley » Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:29 am

so Tims the oldest to jump 6m has the lowest grip and biggest push off
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Unread postby BethelPV » Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:34 am

Yea, Tims stats are similar to mine as well...

14 - 10'
15 - 13-6
16 - 15'
17 - 16-4

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Unread postby Scott Go Pre » Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:04 am

tim hutzley wrote:so Tims the oldest to jump 6m has the lowest grip and biggest push off


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ya don't need a big grip to jump high

Unread postby ~jj~ » Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:59 pm

Ah! Very nice information.
He used to be such a pole squasher, but he has improved that phase a lot in the last year or two.
Gripping 16'4 to vault 19'8.... lets see that's a 3' 4" plus 8" (box depth) so an even 4'.
Take the hint out there, some of you "over grippers" who can't even push a foot or two above your top hand. Your bleeding energy out of the system, all in the name of a high grip. You might vault higher gripping lower because the your take-off energy fits the equation better! Additionally, you will be safer, and less likely to break poles.

Consider this: Serge Bubka only gripped 16'8 or 9 to vault 20'2. That's a 4'2" push....and he was much faster than any other vault I know about.

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Unread postby KYLE ELLIS » Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:21 pm

I think its interesting that Tim has the lowest grip, second slowest speed on the runway, smallest flexed pole, and THE BEST PUSHOFF? Doesnt add up to me; to have the best pushoff I would have figured he would of had good speed (9.75+) and a huge pole (11.5-) to have the best pushoff?

So does this make Tim the most effecient jumper ever? I know there was a long discussion about the best vaulter ever many said Bubka (the highest jump) and many said who ever can push off the highest. Well Tim has a combo of the two ( 6.01 and a 4ft pushoff!) so now you would have to throw his name in there right? Plus he has the Oly gold....
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Unread postby OAKPV2004 » Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:08 pm

KYLE ELLIS wrote:I think its interesting that Tim has the lowest grip, second slowest speed on the runway, smallest flexed pole, and THE BEST PUSHOFF? Doesnt add up to me;..


Alot of thing in pole vault dont add up.. :dazed:
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Unread postby Robert schmitt » Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:34 pm

OAKPV2004 wrote:
KYLE ELLIS wrote:I think its interesting that Tim has the lowest grip, second slowest speed on the runway, smallest flexed pole, and THE BEST PUSHOFF? Doesnt add up to me;..


Alot of thing in pole vault dont add up.. :dazed:


JJ has the answer to your problem with addition-
"You might vault higher gripping lower because the your take-off energy fits the equation better!"

It's about maintiaing/conserving/transfering that energy you create.
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bubka

Unread postby ~jj~ » Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:17 pm

Well Bubka was not tall, nor did he have long arms. So he had to run faster and jump up better to create the all important take-off angle.
In addition, Bubka did not bend the pole very much. All this combined with a very stiff pole and great technique created huge push-offs. Keep in mind that he often started at 18'8 which was a 2'8" push right from the get go!
When he was on, he combined the straightening energy of the pole, and swing energy of his body so that he was lifted visably of the top of the pole.
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Re: ya don't need a big grip to jump high

Unread postby cdmilton » Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:10 am

~jj~ wrote:Take the hint out there, some of you "over grippers" who can't even push a foot or two above your top hand. Your bleeding energy out of the system, all in the name of a high grip. You might vault higher gripping lower because the your take-off energy fits the equation better! Additionally, you will be safer, and less likely to break poles.

Jan Johnson
Atascadero, Ca


Well Said! It's nice to hear this from well known coaches!
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