MIDWEST VS. WEST!!!!!?
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MIDWEST VS. WEST!!!!!?
MIDWEST:
Event 14 Men Pole Vault ** Qual: 5.05 **
RANK ATHLETE YR SCHOOL SEED MARK DATE
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1 Jordan Scott FR Kansas 5.55m 05-13
2 Andre Poljanec JR N. Iowa 5.55m 05-13
3 Scott Martin SR Oklahoma 5.45m 05-13
4 Chris Ashcraft SR Texas Tech 5.35m 05-13
5 Chip Heuser JR Oklahoma 5.35m 04-21
6 Matt Adkisson SR Sam Houston St. 5.35m 05-06
7 Seth Harris SR Texas Tech 5.35m 05-13
8 Nick Frawley FR Air Force 5.32m 05-12
9 Jarno Kivioja SR N. Iowa 5.30m 04-27
10 Gable Baldwin SR Nebraska 5.25m 04-20
11 Brian Porter FR Texas Tech 5.20m 03-08
12 Steve Elliott SR Oral Roberts 5.20m 03-31
13 Jason Colwick FR Rice 5.20m 04-21
14 Raven Cepeda JR N. Iowa 5.15m 05-12
15 Alex Bentley FR Houston 5.06m 05-11
16 Ben Peterson FR Minnesota 5.05m 05-13
17 Tyler Whitham JR Rice 5.05m 05-04
18 Kirk Cooper FR Kansas 5.05m 04-20
19 Nic Petersen SR Nebraska 5.05m 04-20
20 Shay Collett SR TexasArlington 5.05m 04-21
21 Jared Tuel FR TexasArlington 5.05m 05-06
22 Dmitri Kabakov SO Texas St. 5.05m 05-06
23 Wade Hayes SO TexasArlington 5.05m 05-06
24 Chayden Feist JR Stephen F Austin 5.05m 05-06
25 Dylan Schmidt SR Wichita St. 5.05m 05-04
26 Bryce Bergman SR Kansas St. 5.05m 03-31
27 Dusty Williams SR Texas A&M 5.05m 03-24
28 Will Paine FR Texas 5.05m 04-07
29 Geoffrey Carey JR Stephen F Austin 5.05m 04-14
30 Zac Holoch SO Nebraska 5.05m 04-29
Event 34 Women Pole Vault ** Qual: 3.80 **
RANK ATHLETE YR SCHOOL SEED MARK DATE
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1 Brysun Stately SO Nebraska 4.35m 04-21
2 Elouise Rudy JR Montana St. 4.33m 05-04
3 Kate Sultanova JR Kansas 4.15m 04-21
4 Jenny Green JR Nebraska 4.10m 05-12
5 Jennie Sewell SR Sam Houston St. 4.09m 05-06
6 Alicia Rue FR Minnesota 4.05m 05-11
7 Lindsey Walesheck SR Texas Tech 4.00m 05-12
8 Andrea Smith JR Minnesota 4.00m 05-11
9 Rachel Greff JR Rice 4.00m 05-12
10 Amanda Alley SO Texas Tech 4.00m 05-12
11 Kelley Schulz JR Texas Tech 3.95m 04-06
12 Libby Harmon JR Kansas 3.90m 05-13
13 Melissa Beerse FR Air Force 3.90m 04-28
14 Laura Gjerde JR Kansas 3.81m 05-04
15 Vanessa Maida SR TexasArlington 3.80m 04-21
16 Ashley Laughlin JR Texas 3.80m 03-17
17 Jessica Brown FR Oklahoma 3.80m 05-12
18 Ashley Nord JR Minnesota 3.80m 05-11
19 Britany Parker FR Kansas 3.80m 04-21
20 Kristina Windham JR Stephen F Austin 3.80m 04-21
21 Jennifer Davidson SO Texas A&M 3.80m 03-31
WEST:
Event 14 Men Pole Vault ** Qual: 5.05 **
RANK ATHLETE YR SCHOOL SEED MARK DATE
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1 Scott Roth FR Washington 5.45m 05-12
2 Thomas Skipper SR Oregon 5.45m 05-12
3 Mike Landers SR UCLA 5.41m 05-05
4 Graeme Hoste JR Stanford 5.35m 05-12
5 David Murphy JR UCLA 5.31m 05-05
6 Bob Low JR BYU 5.30m 04-28
7 Tyson Byers SR WSU 5.27m 04-15
8 Victor Weirich FR BYU 5.22m 05-12
9 Daniel Imlach JR Sac State 5.20m 04-27
10 Jake Arnold SR Arizona 5.20m 04-14
11 Brandon Estrada SO USC 5.20m 04-14
12 Levi Keller JR Idaho St. 5.20m 04-28
13 Ryan Shuler FR California 5.20m 04-21
14 Chris Bencomo JR UCLA 5.16m 04-14
15 McKane Lee JR Washington 5.15m 05-12
16 Whitney Neves SO BYU 5.12m 05-12
17 Matt Weirich JR BYU 5.06m 04-14
18 Mike King JR Cal Poly-SLO 5.05m 05-12
19 Adam Ball SO Weber St. 5.05m 04-27
20 Dustin Deleo SO UCLA 5.05m 03-17
21 Brad Ellertson JR BYU 5.05m 05-02
22 Josh Hustedt JR Stanford 5.05m 04-21
23 David Shortenhaus JR UCLA 5.05m 04-21
24 Seth Perrins SR Washington 5.05m 04-28
25 David Moore SR Oregon 5.05m 03-17
26 Sean Jones SR Northridge 5.05m 03-14
27 Nick Mossberg JR Arizona 5.05m 03-31
28 Zack Miller JR UCLA 5.05m 04-21
29 Brian Taylor FR S. Utah 5.05m 04-19
30 Andrew Pancotti FR Fresno St. 4.95m 05-12 CC
Event 34 Women Pole Vault ** Qual: 3.80 **
RANK ATHLETE YR SCHOOL SEED MARK DATE
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1 April Kubishta JR Az State 4.20m 04-21
2 Gabriella Duclos SO Arizona 4.20m 05-13
3 Ingrid Kantola JR UCLA 4.15m 05-05
4 Stevie Marshalek JR Washington 4.11m 04-28
5 Melinda Owen JR Idaho 4.10m 04-28
6 Ashley McCallister SO BYU 4.08m 05-11
7 Kelly Furr SR BYU 4.08m 05-11
8 Jackie Nguyen SR UCLA 4.07m 04-28
9 Megan Jamerson JR UCLA 4.05m 03-03
10 Kelley DiVesta JR Washington 4.01m 04-28
11 Monica Pacas JR San Diego St 4.00m 05-11
12 Dana VanWagner SR San Diego St 4.00m 03-10
13 Kat Duhadway SR Utah State 4.00m 05-12
14 Jill Reynolds SR Long Beach 4.00m 03-10
15 KC Dahlgren SO Idaho 4.00m 04-14
16 Samatha Modeste SR Fresno St. 3.97m 04-28
17 Sarah Hegna SR E. Washington 3.95m 04-28
18 MaKenzie Iorg SR BYU 3.95m 04-28
19 Julene Kaufusi JR BYU 3.91m 03-16
20 Jenna Homes FR Cal Poly-SLO 3.90m 03-10
21 Emily Enders SR Oregon 3.90m 04-07
22 BreeAnn Piva SR Nevada 3.90m 04-13
23 Stephanie Bagan FR San Diego St 3.90m 03-31
24 Andrea Greenman FR Fresno St. 3.81m 03-24
25 Dalya Taman JR Fullerton 3.81m 03-24
26 Myrriah Swango SR Washington 3.81m 05-04
27 Lindsay Regan FR UCLA 3.80m 05-13
28 Christin Shibley JR San Diego St 3.80m 05-11
29 Krystal Quinn JR Northridge 3.80m 05-11
30 Mandie Rowell SR Utah 3.80m 05-11
31 Eniko Eros FR Oregon 3.80m 03-17
32 Susan Atwater SR Utah 3.80m 04-21
33 Katie Williams SR Idaho St. 3.80m 03-24
34 Alana Waterford JR Az State 3.80m 05-13
35 Chun Mei Nickles JR USC 3.80m 04-21
36 Tara Rhein SO Oregon 3.80m 05-05
37 Jessica Trujillo SO Hawaii-Manoa 3.80m 05-11
38 Christine Silva JR Cal Poly-SLO 3.80m 04-28
39 Kasie Scott SO Idaho St. 3.80m 04-28
40 Marie Muscato SR S. Utah 3.35m 05-10 CC
What a year!!!! What do you think.. Look at Strength and depth....looks like a great year!
Event 14 Men Pole Vault ** Qual: 5.05 **
RANK ATHLETE YR SCHOOL SEED MARK DATE
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1 Jordan Scott FR Kansas 5.55m 05-13
2 Andre Poljanec JR N. Iowa 5.55m 05-13
3 Scott Martin SR Oklahoma 5.45m 05-13
4 Chris Ashcraft SR Texas Tech 5.35m 05-13
5 Chip Heuser JR Oklahoma 5.35m 04-21
6 Matt Adkisson SR Sam Houston St. 5.35m 05-06
7 Seth Harris SR Texas Tech 5.35m 05-13
8 Nick Frawley FR Air Force 5.32m 05-12
9 Jarno Kivioja SR N. Iowa 5.30m 04-27
10 Gable Baldwin SR Nebraska 5.25m 04-20
11 Brian Porter FR Texas Tech 5.20m 03-08
12 Steve Elliott SR Oral Roberts 5.20m 03-31
13 Jason Colwick FR Rice 5.20m 04-21
14 Raven Cepeda JR N. Iowa 5.15m 05-12
15 Alex Bentley FR Houston 5.06m 05-11
16 Ben Peterson FR Minnesota 5.05m 05-13
17 Tyler Whitham JR Rice 5.05m 05-04
18 Kirk Cooper FR Kansas 5.05m 04-20
19 Nic Petersen SR Nebraska 5.05m 04-20
20 Shay Collett SR TexasArlington 5.05m 04-21
21 Jared Tuel FR TexasArlington 5.05m 05-06
22 Dmitri Kabakov SO Texas St. 5.05m 05-06
23 Wade Hayes SO TexasArlington 5.05m 05-06
24 Chayden Feist JR Stephen F Austin 5.05m 05-06
25 Dylan Schmidt SR Wichita St. 5.05m 05-04
26 Bryce Bergman SR Kansas St. 5.05m 03-31
27 Dusty Williams SR Texas A&M 5.05m 03-24
28 Will Paine FR Texas 5.05m 04-07
29 Geoffrey Carey JR Stephen F Austin 5.05m 04-14
30 Zac Holoch SO Nebraska 5.05m 04-29
Event 34 Women Pole Vault ** Qual: 3.80 **
RANK ATHLETE YR SCHOOL SEED MARK DATE
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1 Brysun Stately SO Nebraska 4.35m 04-21
2 Elouise Rudy JR Montana St. 4.33m 05-04
3 Kate Sultanova JR Kansas 4.15m 04-21
4 Jenny Green JR Nebraska 4.10m 05-12
5 Jennie Sewell SR Sam Houston St. 4.09m 05-06
6 Alicia Rue FR Minnesota 4.05m 05-11
7 Lindsey Walesheck SR Texas Tech 4.00m 05-12
8 Andrea Smith JR Minnesota 4.00m 05-11
9 Rachel Greff JR Rice 4.00m 05-12
10 Amanda Alley SO Texas Tech 4.00m 05-12
11 Kelley Schulz JR Texas Tech 3.95m 04-06
12 Libby Harmon JR Kansas 3.90m 05-13
13 Melissa Beerse FR Air Force 3.90m 04-28
14 Laura Gjerde JR Kansas 3.81m 05-04
15 Vanessa Maida SR TexasArlington 3.80m 04-21
16 Ashley Laughlin JR Texas 3.80m 03-17
17 Jessica Brown FR Oklahoma 3.80m 05-12
18 Ashley Nord JR Minnesota 3.80m 05-11
19 Britany Parker FR Kansas 3.80m 04-21
20 Kristina Windham JR Stephen F Austin 3.80m 04-21
21 Jennifer Davidson SO Texas A&M 3.80m 03-31
WEST:
Event 14 Men Pole Vault ** Qual: 5.05 **
RANK ATHLETE YR SCHOOL SEED MARK DATE
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1 Scott Roth FR Washington 5.45m 05-12
2 Thomas Skipper SR Oregon 5.45m 05-12
3 Mike Landers SR UCLA 5.41m 05-05
4 Graeme Hoste JR Stanford 5.35m 05-12
5 David Murphy JR UCLA 5.31m 05-05
6 Bob Low JR BYU 5.30m 04-28
7 Tyson Byers SR WSU 5.27m 04-15
8 Victor Weirich FR BYU 5.22m 05-12
9 Daniel Imlach JR Sac State 5.20m 04-27
10 Jake Arnold SR Arizona 5.20m 04-14
11 Brandon Estrada SO USC 5.20m 04-14
12 Levi Keller JR Idaho St. 5.20m 04-28
13 Ryan Shuler FR California 5.20m 04-21
14 Chris Bencomo JR UCLA 5.16m 04-14
15 McKane Lee JR Washington 5.15m 05-12
16 Whitney Neves SO BYU 5.12m 05-12
17 Matt Weirich JR BYU 5.06m 04-14
18 Mike King JR Cal Poly-SLO 5.05m 05-12
19 Adam Ball SO Weber St. 5.05m 04-27
20 Dustin Deleo SO UCLA 5.05m 03-17
21 Brad Ellertson JR BYU 5.05m 05-02
22 Josh Hustedt JR Stanford 5.05m 04-21
23 David Shortenhaus JR UCLA 5.05m 04-21
24 Seth Perrins SR Washington 5.05m 04-28
25 David Moore SR Oregon 5.05m 03-17
26 Sean Jones SR Northridge 5.05m 03-14
27 Nick Mossberg JR Arizona 5.05m 03-31
28 Zack Miller JR UCLA 5.05m 04-21
29 Brian Taylor FR S. Utah 5.05m 04-19
30 Andrew Pancotti FR Fresno St. 4.95m 05-12 CC
Event 34 Women Pole Vault ** Qual: 3.80 **
RANK ATHLETE YR SCHOOL SEED MARK DATE
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1 April Kubishta JR Az State 4.20m 04-21
2 Gabriella Duclos SO Arizona 4.20m 05-13
3 Ingrid Kantola JR UCLA 4.15m 05-05
4 Stevie Marshalek JR Washington 4.11m 04-28
5 Melinda Owen JR Idaho 4.10m 04-28
6 Ashley McCallister SO BYU 4.08m 05-11
7 Kelly Furr SR BYU 4.08m 05-11
8 Jackie Nguyen SR UCLA 4.07m 04-28
9 Megan Jamerson JR UCLA 4.05m 03-03
10 Kelley DiVesta JR Washington 4.01m 04-28
11 Monica Pacas JR San Diego St 4.00m 05-11
12 Dana VanWagner SR San Diego St 4.00m 03-10
13 Kat Duhadway SR Utah State 4.00m 05-12
14 Jill Reynolds SR Long Beach 4.00m 03-10
15 KC Dahlgren SO Idaho 4.00m 04-14
16 Samatha Modeste SR Fresno St. 3.97m 04-28
17 Sarah Hegna SR E. Washington 3.95m 04-28
18 MaKenzie Iorg SR BYU 3.95m 04-28
19 Julene Kaufusi JR BYU 3.91m 03-16
20 Jenna Homes FR Cal Poly-SLO 3.90m 03-10
21 Emily Enders SR Oregon 3.90m 04-07
22 BreeAnn Piva SR Nevada 3.90m 04-13
23 Stephanie Bagan FR San Diego St 3.90m 03-31
24 Andrea Greenman FR Fresno St. 3.81m 03-24
25 Dalya Taman JR Fullerton 3.81m 03-24
26 Myrriah Swango SR Washington 3.81m 05-04
27 Lindsay Regan FR UCLA 3.80m 05-13
28 Christin Shibley JR San Diego St 3.80m 05-11
29 Krystal Quinn JR Northridge 3.80m 05-11
30 Mandie Rowell SR Utah 3.80m 05-11
31 Eniko Eros FR Oregon 3.80m 03-17
32 Susan Atwater SR Utah 3.80m 04-21
33 Katie Williams SR Idaho St. 3.80m 03-24
34 Alana Waterford JR Az State 3.80m 05-13
35 Chun Mei Nickles JR USC 3.80m 04-21
36 Tara Rhein SO Oregon 3.80m 05-05
37 Jessica Trujillo SO Hawaii-Manoa 3.80m 05-11
38 Christine Silva JR Cal Poly-SLO 3.80m 04-28
39 Kasie Scott SO Idaho St. 3.80m 04-28
40 Marie Muscato SR S. Utah 3.35m 05-10 CC
What a year!!!! What do you think.. Look at Strength and depth....looks like a great year!
Just fly high, and KISS THE SKY!!!
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Okay lets make a few points right now
1. Your post was completely uncalled for. Name one construction or informative thing made in your post
2. edited.. silly me
3. Third place was thirty one on only 1 miss. He would have gone in every region, and won 2 of them.
4. The whole purpose of a regional system is to have surprises and give people a chance who might not otherwise get in.
5. Why only single out the east region, plenty of people in the midwest didn't get the job done, and the mideast region was worse than the east as well.
go take your crap elsewhere, its not welcome here
1. Your post was completely uncalled for. Name one construction or informative thing made in your post
2. edited.. silly me
3. Third place was thirty one on only 1 miss. He would have gone in every region, and won 2 of them.
4. The whole purpose of a regional system is to have surprises and give people a chance who might not otherwise get in.
5. Why only single out the east region, plenty of people in the midwest didn't get the job done, and the mideast region was worse than the east as well.
go take your crap elsewhere, its not welcome here
Last edited by VTechVaulter on Thu May 31, 2007 10:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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VTECHVAULTER----- What are you talking about? A little trouble taking critism today? The west and midwest is so much more competitive, it's not even comparable year in and year out. true there are a few decent vaulters out of the east but by no means a POWER men or women. you are trying to become an elite vaulter, you might not want to get in little fights on the internet, as i mentioned your image before you might want to conduct yourself more as a professional...
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wannaflyhigh20: a little cold for a Saturday morning to Moonshine. your point to the strength or should i say the weakness of the east is somewhat accurate but it's getting better as for attacking moonshines professionalism i guess that's been long time overdue. he will mature with time. no offense meant just my opinion
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Mowad and wannaflyhigh... who are you guys?
There is no doubt that the west and midwest are tough regions. But like Brian said, that is the beauty of the Regional system. Speaking for the east, there was some wind involved and some people who put up good marks during the regular season didn't fair well. So consistency paid off. The mideast, from the report I got from Hogue, had a headwind, rain and was 60 degrees.
I took personal offense to the statement that there shouldn't have been an east region at all, because I am going to Sacramento from the east. Like alot of people yesterday, I didn't jump very high, but I qualified and extended my season to get more shots at jumping higher.
I agree that I don't see the point of Mowad's post.
There is no doubt that the west and midwest are tough regions. But like Brian said, that is the beauty of the Regional system. Speaking for the east, there was some wind involved and some people who put up good marks during the regular season didn't fair well. So consistency paid off. The mideast, from the report I got from Hogue, had a headwind, rain and was 60 degrees.
I took personal offense to the statement that there shouldn't have been an east region at all, because I am going to Sacramento from the east. Like alot of people yesterday, I didn't jump very high, but I qualified and extended my season to get more shots at jumping higher.
I agree that I don't see the point of Mowad's post.
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its not always about jumping high at every meet, but stepping up when it counts...
sometimes we can forget about the competition aspect. We can let the end result get in the way of what was really a great day for someone...
sometimes we can forget about the competition aspect. We can let the end result get in the way of what was really a great day for someone...
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Correct me if I'm wrong.... but let's see.... Indoor NCAAs 2007...... 2nd and 7th places were from the EAST..... 1st, 5th and 6th were from the MIDEAST...... now..... who was saying that our sections of the country are worthless?
There are alot of great vaulters in the East and the Mideast..... and there are certainly alot of good jumpers in the Midwest and West as results show..... but the bottom line is, statistics are for LOSERS.... come back and run your mouth when the West or Midwest sweeps NCAAs.....that post was uncalled for and very low class. Grow up
There are alot of great vaulters in the East and the Mideast..... and there are certainly alot of good jumpers in the Midwest and West as results show..... but the bottom line is, statistics are for LOSERS.... come back and run your mouth when the West or Midwest sweeps NCAAs.....that post was uncalled for and very low class. Grow up
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its funny how all the east is defensive and everyone else attacks them, lets all stop being so defensive and start reading things as they are. i dont think this message topic started out as a defensive post....lets keep to the topic. Midwest vs. West: 12 guys over 5.21+ at the West Regional with 5.80 winning it. 6 over 5.21+ at the Midwest regional with 5.31 winning it.....you be the judge.
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On the radio they would say "long time listener, first time caller." So I guess here I should say long time reader first time poster. So, hello to everyone.
On the topic of west vs midwest I agree with the last post. You have to wait for the head to head competion so that the conditions are the same (But WOW for Tommy's start to the season).
On the "we might as well not have the East Region meet" post... One of the problems with email and IRC is that you can't read someone's tone of voice or body language. I talked with the coach that posted that and he was being sarchastic and trying to say the exact opposite of how everyone (including me) interpreted his post. My apologies to him for misinterpreting his initial post and my apologies to vtechvaulter who seeing my intial reaction and being the loyal kid he is quickly came in with guns blazing.
For those interested in the relative strength of regions you might be interested to know that there is a proposal that is likely to pass that will move a bunch of schools west. Arkansas for example with their fine women's vault squad and future razorback Spencer McCorkle will move from the mideast to the midwest region. Us (Virginia Tech), Penn State, Pitt and a number of other schools will move from the east to the mideast. There are also schools moving from the midwest to the west. I'll try to get a post up with more details.
Congrats to all the qualifiers which I think will include the following six at large bids
Brad Gebauer 5.51 (mideast)
Scott Martin 5.45 (midwest)
Seth Harris 5.35 (midwest)
Thorsten Mueller 5.33 (east)
Nick Frawley 5.32 (midwest)
Andrew Park 5.24 (east)
Edit 1--> I am sorry to say that Andrew did not make the last spot.
Rob Low of BYU at 5.30m was the cutoff. Rob finished
13th in the West Region but must have been admitted to
the at-large pool when someone above him didn't declare...
sprained ankle or something.
Edit 2--> Andew has been added back!
On the topic of west vs midwest I agree with the last post. You have to wait for the head to head competion so that the conditions are the same (But WOW for Tommy's start to the season).
On the "we might as well not have the East Region meet" post... One of the problems with email and IRC is that you can't read someone's tone of voice or body language. I talked with the coach that posted that and he was being sarchastic and trying to say the exact opposite of how everyone (including me) interpreted his post. My apologies to him for misinterpreting his initial post and my apologies to vtechvaulter who seeing my intial reaction and being the loyal kid he is quickly came in with guns blazing.
For those interested in the relative strength of regions you might be interested to know that there is a proposal that is likely to pass that will move a bunch of schools west. Arkansas for example with their fine women's vault squad and future razorback Spencer McCorkle will move from the mideast to the midwest region. Us (Virginia Tech), Penn State, Pitt and a number of other schools will move from the east to the mideast. There are also schools moving from the midwest to the west. I'll try to get a post up with more details.
Congrats to all the qualifiers which I think will include the following six at large bids
Brad Gebauer 5.51 (mideast)
Scott Martin 5.45 (midwest)
Seth Harris 5.35 (midwest)
Thorsten Mueller 5.33 (east)
Nick Frawley 5.32 (midwest)
Andrew Park 5.24 (east)
Edit 1--> I am sorry to say that Andrew did not make the last spot.
Rob Low of BYU at 5.30m was the cutoff. Rob finished
13th in the West Region but must have been admitted to
the at-large pool when someone above him didn't declare...
sprained ankle or something.
Edit 2--> Andew has been added back!
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