how efficient are you

News from the collegiate ranks

Moderators: lonpvh, VaultnGus

VTechVaulter
PV Lover
Posts: 1312
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:00 pm
Expertise: Current Elite Vaulter, College Volunteer Coach, HUGE FAN

how efficient are you

Unread postby VTechVaulter » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:01 pm

okay so i got bored today while writing a lab. so i wrote a program to determine how efficient a pole vaulter you are by calculating a theoretical maximum height.

Basis is conservation of energy

Assumptions - 100m speed is indicative of runway speed
why this is okay
your top speed is faster than your 100 meter average but you lose some speed when you put a pole in your hands.

assumption 2 - frictional and sound energy losses balance out internal energy gains
why this is okay
because i have no way to account for these values. however my values are working out well

i tested bubka and got that he is 96 percent efficient with a max jump of 6.40 meters


anyway... my reason for doing this is people are always like well so and so jumps higher cuz he holds higher or cuz hes stronger. but now ive used physics to prove how good a "vaulter you are". and the basic conclusion was, faster runners jump higher even if they are less efficient. duh.

so if youd like to know your efficiency. Post how tall you are, your best jump, and how fast you run the 100 meters. and ill reply back.
Brian Mondschein
Philadelphia Jumps Club, Coach and Co-Founder
www.phillyjumpsclub.com

User avatar
rainbowgirl28
I'm in Charge
Posts: 30435
Joined: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:59 pm
Expertise: Former College Vaulter, I coach and officiate as life allows
Lifetime Best: 11'6"
Gender: Female
World Record Holder?: Renaud Lavillenie
Favorite Vaulter: Casey Carrigan
Location: A Temperate Island
Contact:

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:09 pm

LOL OK... I am 5'6", my best jump is 11'6", and my 100 time is about 15.0 :o

VTechVaulter
PV Lover
Posts: 1312
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:00 pm
Expertise: Current Elite Vaulter, College Volunteer Coach, HUGE FAN

Unread postby VTechVaulter » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:27 pm

hmmmm... it appears that my assumption for take off velocity may need some work for some of these cases.... how sad

but according to this your 96 percent efficient.. somewhere right around bubka.. with a max possible jump of 11.9.. we need a better take off velocity for a more accurate representation with you. have any kind of 50 or 60 meter times. or maybe your just an amazing technical vaulter :)

edit:: i gave you 7. m/s runway speed, which is still not very fast, and it dropped to 87 percent. i think the curves are very sensitive down at lower velocities (not to be mean)
Brian Mondschein
Philadelphia Jumps Club, Coach and Co-Founder
www.phillyjumpsclub.com

User avatar
TreyDECA
PV Pro
Posts: 408
Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2003 2:09 am
Expertise: Former HS, College, and current Elite vaulter/decathlete
Location: 7 lefts from a box in Austin, TX
Contact:

Unread postby TreyDECA » Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:15 pm

get ready for some horrible results....

6'5

204lbs

10.48sec

5.10m (short run-5 lefts)
8700... mark it down

User avatar
rainbowgirl28
I'm in Charge
Posts: 30435
Joined: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:59 pm
Expertise: Former College Vaulter, I coach and officiate as life allows
Lifetime Best: 11'6"
Gender: Female
World Record Holder?: Renaud Lavillenie
Favorite Vaulter: Casey Carrigan
Location: A Temperate Island
Contact:

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:57 am

VTechVaulter wrote:hmmmm... it appears that my assumption for take off velocity may need some work for some of these cases.... how sad

but according to this your 96 percent efficient.. somewhere right around bubka.. with a max possible jump of 11.9.. we need a better take off velocity for a more accurate representation with you. have any kind of 50 or 60 meter times. or maybe your just an amazing technical vaulter :)

edit:: i gave you 7. m/s runway speed, which is still not very fast, and it dropped to 87 percent. i think the curves are very sensitive down at lower velocities (not to be mean)


I really am pretty slow... but I know I can jump higher than 11'9" :P I've cleared 11'8" in practice.

My PR through the speed trap (15m) is about a 1.99. I really am slow.

VTechVaulter
PV Lover
Posts: 1312
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:00 pm
Expertise: Current Elite Vaulter, College Volunteer Coach, HUGE FAN

Unread postby VTechVaulter » Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:54 am

okay becca that speed works out better.. at that speed you could jump 13'11, and your currently 81 percent efficient
Brian Mondschein
Philadelphia Jumps Club, Coach and Co-Founder
www.phillyjumpsclub.com

VTechVaulter
PV Lover
Posts: 1312
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:00 pm
Expertise: Current Elite Vaulter, College Volunteer Coach, HUGE FAN

Unread postby VTechVaulter » Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:57 am

trey.. again with only 5 lefts your not using all your speed. but. with that fast a 100 meter with a percect jump you could go 6.20m

however since your pr is from 5 lefts, your efficiency is low.. down at 80.8 percent. itd be fun to have a radar gun, to really have a good idea.
Brian Mondschein
Philadelphia Jumps Club, Coach and Co-Founder
www.phillyjumpsclub.com

User avatar
Scott Go Pre
PV Lover
Posts: 1146
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:48 pm
Expertise: Former college vaulter, and high school coach
Lifetime Best: 4.88m
Favorite Vaulter: Toby Stevenson
Location: Tallahassee, FL

Unread postby Scott Go Pre » Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:20 am

Okay Brian, I am 5'9", I've vaulted a best of 4.60m (15'1"), and my 100m is 11.87.
Rely upon God with all your heart, do not rely on your own insight. ~ Proverbs 3:5

VTechVaulter
PV Lover
Posts: 1312
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:00 pm
Expertise: Current Elite Vaulter, College Volunteer Coach, HUGE FAN

Unread postby VTechVaulter » Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:33 am

88.9 percent
possible jump of 16'11"
Brian Mondschein
Philadelphia Jumps Club, Coach and Co-Founder
www.phillyjumpsclub.com

User avatar
NUVAULTER
PV Nerd
Posts: 71
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:11 pm
Location: University of Nebraska, LINCOLN
Contact:

Unread postby NUVAULTER » Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:34 pm

Im 5'8'' 158 pounds... and In a flying 30m I ran a 3.01 electronic.... PR is 5.15 meters.......havnt ran the 100 since HS... but 10.7
Husker Track and Field.

User avatar
OAKPV2004
PV Follower
Posts: 650
Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2002 4:37 pm
Location: the woodlands, texas
Contact:

Unread postby OAKPV2004 » Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:11 pm

1.83 in the 15m. 15' jump... that was the last time i did any timed running and im sure of the numbers.... whats that come out to?

I think i was around 1.65 maybe, and i jumped 16'7" 2 years ago. :confused:

VTechVaulter
PV Lover
Posts: 1312
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:00 pm
Expertise: Current Elite Vaulter, College Volunteer Coach, HUGE FAN

Unread postby VTechVaulter » Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:58 pm

OAKPV2004 wrote:1.83 in the 15m. 15' jump... that was the last time i did any timed running and im sure of the numbers.... whats that come out to?

I think i was around 1.65 maybe, and i jumped 16'7" 2 years ago. :confused:



how tall are you
Brian Mondschein
Philadelphia Jumps Club, Coach and Co-Founder
www.phillyjumpsclub.com


Return to “Pole Vault - College”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 34 guests